I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Move
- 08/14/11
Karim Settar
Dr. Nadia Moves To Washington
The article published here on the recent controversy relating to my recent request for help about our move to Washington is inaccurate and misguided in its appraisal of the situation. It swiftly generalizes a series of phone conversations and represents a picture that is inflated.
I did expressed that my husband and I would arrive in D.C. and that we needed some help lifting boxes and furniture.
Washington / Morocco Board News-- Last month, a lady called from Georgia and said, "Is this Morocco Board?"
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" Yes, it is, How can we help you?" I replied.
" Hi, I am Moroccan, My husband who is a PHD and myself are moving to the Washington area in two weeks and I was wondering if you know someone who can help us with the move."
I was in the middle of a meeting talking to someone about a project and was annoyed to be receiving calls of this nature that are unrelated with what we do. I tried not to show my irritation and tried to help her in an expeditious way. I gave her the telephone number of a friend, Jamal, who is active in the community and knows many people, particularly new comers who may want to make a couple of bucks.
" Call this guy, he may be able to help" I Said.
A week later, a friend of mine called me and made a remark " What happened with Jamal? This lady from Georgia called him and he was so upset both at her and at you for giving out his number"
I was puzzled, Jamal is a cool dude, very helpful and he rarely if ever gets rattled up enough to lose his cool. I was curious as to what had happened.
I called him and he said "Man, that lady from Georgia called me and said that she needed three people to help her with her move. I said, OK. How much do you want to pay them? And she said it will be " fee-sabyl-illah""
In other words, the lady wanted three guys to help her move and she is looking to have them work for free or "for the sake of god", which is the approximate translation.
" That is rather strange for her to call and ask for people to work for free? Is that why you got upset?" I asked.
"No" he replied " what go on my nerve so much is that she said that she and her husband are PHDs and her father is elderly and that they were not going to do any lifting and that all the work is be done by the three helpers and that she expected it to be done soon because they are moving in two weeks"
I said " i am sorry man, if she had said the same to me, I would have blown my top and embarrassed my self by saying something inappropriate"
The concept of " fee-sabyl-illah” was and is still used in Morocco and elsewhere, where people provide services to others for "the sake of God”, i.e. for free.
But they mostly know each other or they are from the same communities. Also, it is mostly cases where people are down on their luck, sick or elderly and have no other means to help themselves. So it does make sense.
But for this lady to be calling long distance and expect people to work for free and mention in the same sentence that she and her husband are PHDs and will not do any lifting in their own move, makes me ponder a consequential question.
"Where did she get her PHD from? And what was her thesis about?"
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I have Zero respect for anyone with a PHD... now if they have a PHD and know how to use it... with respect, integrity, etc... that is a different story!
Tell her that her timing could not have been better and that you have just gotten off the phone talking to someone who has people who are looking to labor for free. Tell her that you have 5 people and get the time and date and the location they are moving to. Go and case the joint that they are moving to a couple of days prior to their arrival just so you can stake out a good spot where you can operate a camcorder from. Then Oooops!! The help “forgets” to show up; the hidden cameraman, however, had his calendar clearly marked and came to get the whole thing on tape. Get it on Youtube. She will find out how her hubris and pomp got her a starring role on Youtube. The title of the video should read something like this:” How to put an end to two pricks” Send her a link via text and tell her that she is fully authorized to use the video as primary resource for any post PhD project that she might be contemplating in the future. Cruel? Can’t be any crueler than her condescending request
or PHD= Patiently Hoping for a Degree or maybe PHD=Probably headed for Divorce
Since they can not do the lifting by themselves I guess they are PHDs = Pretty Heavy Drinkers so they needed help.
The Holiest part of Ramadan is charity. It is very kind of the author as well as Jamal to have shown their Islamic positive side. I cannot imagine that the lady and her family are using “Fee Sabil Allah” as an excuse to skim off other Moroccans goodness and willingness to help. The difficulty here is that the lady and her family are in Atlanta and the suggested potential helpers are in Northern Virginia. If the lady and her family have no money and if they are undergoing hardship as it happens sometimes to people anywhere, I would suggest that she contact the nearest Mosque to her neighborhood in the area where she lives in Atlanta and speak to the Imam and seek help to move because of her economic,financ ial and physical condition and that of her family. Furthermore, one of the best Moroccan restaurant in Atlanta is a Moroccan restaurant owned and run by a Moroccan who is an extremely benevolent human being. The lady in question should also contact him and explain to him her situation. I am sure that he will help her find a solution. If her problem is a real problem, we should raise some funds to assist her and her family move. If the whole issue is to take advantage of the members of the Moroccan community, I then question her approach PHD or not. Many people fall into hard times. As Muslims in this Holy Month of Ramadan, I believe that we all would want to help if the situation this lady and her family are in warrants it. All the rest is irrelevant.
She got her PhD in Morocco where else?
The lady must have a human crisis for doing what she has done. She is either all the things that the majority of the commentators assume she is or she really has a difficult problem. Since we all took the freedom to comment on the situation she presented to Karim and Jamal as to what she wanted from them, why don’t we give her the opportunity to tell us through her exploratory comment what her situation really is. By the number of people who commented in spite of our personal comments, I think that we are all interested in this case and we genuinely want to help if she has problems, but we just do not want to be duped. Isn’t it? Have a Happy Ramadan continuation.
The article is not really transparent, and a lady who asked help has been turned down.
shame on you!
You help for the sake of God when you want to and not when asked of you
Salam to you all and shame on you.
So much to say about Moroccan ethics, needless to say about Islam and the holy month of Ramadan and goodwill. Some of you have really jumped the gun and commented in a very negative way. PHD or not, no body should move to a new environment under the circumstances of this family. The whole concept here is completely mistreated.
Georgia and The Carolinas have a large Moroccan community that is affiliated with al-adl-wa-ilihs an., In other words "khwanjiyas".
When you are used to dealing in such milieu, it make sense to call complete stranger and say "i am a Muslim sister, i need three bearded fellows to help me move "fee sabyl illah".
Instead of calling the local mosque or her khwanjiya friends, she called MB and oversold her phd, her denials notwithstanding .
Good for you Hamid. I really appreciated your words of wisdom. I decided to find out who this lady is and I did. She and her husband are wonderful people and far from all the hog wash that some commentators have freely subjected them to (S-Hab al Hassanat Wak Wak)I hope that when they come to Washington that you will get a chance to meet them. They are a positive addition to the community. I also hope that others will make sure to get to know them. It is a win win to know this couple. When I travel to DC on my way to Morocco, I will definitely make sure to meet them. Maybe we could visit them together. Happy Ramadan to Hamid and to everyone else.
Dr. Chtaini would you please encourage her to tell us her version of this story!
Folks here are not against lending a hand fi sabili lah to a Moroccan sister, they are against the fact that Dr. Nadia mentioned the fact that is a PhD educated. This may very well be interpreted as " I am educated and you are not, now do this for me now or else" and that's exactly what happened and that is exactly why we have pros and cons in this issue.
I wish Dr. Nadia would have known better that in the US we do not mentioned our degrees, we do not mentioned what we do unless we are asked.
Imagine an American would say " Hi my name is Sarah Olson, and I am calling to see if I can find few people to help me move some furniture to my apartment and by the way I am a PhD holder" I am sure that Dr. Nadia did not phrase it in this manner but I am sure that the guy she dealt with understood it as such.
I feel more for the husband because us being Muslims in the US is not pretty, like it or not, we are the most hated communities in this country.
After 9/11 an African American colleague of my Moroccan friend told him " Welcome to the front seat my friend, and trust me, you will remain in it for the rest of your life and thank you for doing us this big favor" The guy was right, We are now a community that Senators are bashing to advance in the polls, or get re/elected, we are a community that Moron priests use to get free publicity by burning the Koran in a public ceremony, we are the scape goals of ills, I am surprised we are not blamed for the tumbling of the economy.
I appreciate your response to the previous article with regard your phone call to a member of the Moroccan community requesting help and assistance for you and your husband to move from your actual location to the D.C Area due to a job opportunity.
I do not know which institution has offered you and your husband a job. I admit, in few instances, some institutions offer financial assistance to future employees to relocate from other cities and states. If it is the case with you and your husband, you should not have made a call to any non-profit organization seeking free labor.
You and your husband claim having Ph.D, which is a great accomplishment putting both of you in higher earning bracket and greater responsibility for the Moroccan and the Muslim communities. You have the knowledge and financial power to contribute in the community and not longer in the receiving end.
By making the call to the member of the Moroccan, you undermined your self, your husband, and your social status because you were begging for free labor
It is not clear how long you have resided in the USA and I must invite you to a new reality far from the one you and I lived with back in the mother land where, often, people use their family, social and financial status for further gains on the expense of the least fortunate in life.
I am sure you have access to the internet at home or one the local free libraries. You could have researched and compared rates for the best deal among moving companies. For your information, some companies offer the whole moving package; packing, loading, unloading and deliver to the new location with no hassle to their customer. Your job is to pay the bell when it comes in the mail unless you prefer to pay in advance. If you can not afford this option, you and your husband are facing financial difficulties or are full of it.
Money may not be an issue to you. You could have called the member of the Moroccan community exercising your right to invest your money in the Moroccan and Muslin community instead of any moving company that does business behind states’ lines. This way, you fulfill your interest under the best conditions possible, give the needy an opportunity to work and make an honest living and most of all, keep the money in the community for it to grow and success.
Frankly, “fee Sabyl-illah” is not for you. You and your husband are healthy, relatively young, and knowledgeable and have an income to fulfill your financial responsibilitie s.
Prophet Mohammed, Peace upon him, once said, “The giving hand is better that receiving hand”.
We all blessed with the opportunity to live and reside in the USA to pursue our dreams, raise a family, secure better future for our children and explore options not available in the mother land. One opportunity is to clear our mind and system from ideas and concepts wrong in the mother land and not acceptable in the USA. We should as a community help one another in any way we can. We should keep low profile, when we are not able to contribute.
Dr. Nadia: I am sure you are a dissent human being, a good member of the Moroccan community and your attentions are honorable, however, your decisions and choices are questionable to certain degree and could be easily addressed by you and your husband to act in the manner that is good for your interest and the community’s interest.
Finally, I want to wish both of you all luck in he world with your new job and the moving process. I am proud to know and learn that two member of the community are highly educated and are able to represent our culture, history and pride among the American society in positive and productive way. Ramadan Karin and Aid Moubarak.
Younes Alaoui
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Rania said: “My husband and I are setting up a business,“ (thanks for letting us know. Allah i3awniek in your business sister. please let us know if you need any help)
Sana Said: “We should be careful in approaching the situation.“(We should indeed. could this be the end of the world ? if not we could set up a meeting discuss the situation if you would like...)
Alia Said : “keep your lips closes and say no bad things”. Or don’t even think, talk or write bad things, it is pure evil.
Nadia Said: “I completely understand where you come from” the question should be where they moving to and not where they coming from?
Muslim: ”I can't help” don’t worry, if you can’t help they are a lot of brother and sister who can help, no problem don’t take it personally.
Fish said : “expects the same from others?” One should not expect anything from others. Leave it to Allah he will for sure reward you for the good work...

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