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I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Move

Karim Settar

Dr. Nadia Moves To Washington


The article published here on the recent controversy relating to my recent request for help about our move to Washington is inaccurate and misguided in its appraisal of the situation. It swiftly generalizes a series of phone conversations and represents a picture that is inflated.
I did expressed that my husband and I would arrive in D.C. and that we needed some help lifting boxes and furniture.

 


Washington / Morocco Board News--    Last month, a lady called from Georgia and said, "Is this Morocco Board?"

" Yes, it is, How can we help you?" I replied.
" Hi, I am Moroccan, My husband who is a PHD and myself are moving to the Washington area in two weeks and I was wondering if you know someone who can help us with the move."

I was in the middle of a meeting talking to someone about a project and was annoyed to be receiving calls of this nature that are unrelated with what we do. I tried not to show my irritation and tried to help her in an expeditious way. I gave her the telephone number of a friend, Jamal, who is active in the community and knows many people, particularly new comers who may want to make a couple of bucks.
" Call this guy, he may be able to help" I Said.

A week later, a friend of mine called me and made a remark  " What happened with Jamal? This lady from Georgia called him and he was so upset both at her and at you for giving out his number"
I was puzzled, Jamal is a cool dude, very helpful and he rarely if ever gets rattled up enough to lose his cool. I was curious as to what had happened.
I called him and he said "Man, that lady from Georgia called me and said that she needed three people to help her with her move. I said, OK. How much do you want to pay them? And she said it will be " fee-sabyl-illah""
In other words, the lady wanted three guys to help her move and she is looking to have them work for free or "for the sake of god", which is the approximate translation.
" That is rather strange for her to call and ask for people to work for free? Is that why you got upset?" I asked.

"No" he replied " what go on my nerve so much is that she said that she and her husband are PHDs and her father is elderly and that they were not going to do any lifting and that all the work is be done by the three helpers and that she expected it to be done soon because they are moving in two weeks"
I said " i am sorry man, if she had said the same to me, I would have blown my top and embarrassed my self by saying something inappropriate"

The concept of " fee-sabyl-illah” was and is still used in Morocco and elsewhere, where people provide services to others for "the sake of God”, i.e. for free.
But they mostly know each other or they are from the same communities. Also, it is mostly cases where people are down on their luck, sick or elderly and have no other means to help themselves. So it does make sense.
But for this lady to be calling long distance and expect people to work for free and mention in the same sentence that she and her husband are PHDs and will not do any lifting in their own move, makes me ponder a consequential question.

"Where did she get her PHD from? And what was her thesis about?"

 


 

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moroccan patriot
0 #1 She and her husband are PHD'smoroccan patriot 2011-08-14 05:06
How else do you explain the false sense of entitlement that grips people who have PHD's?

I have Zero respect for anyone with a PHD... now if they have a PHD and know how to use it... with respect, integrity, etc... that is a different story!
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M.brahimi
0 #2 whatever happened to good humorM.brahimi 2011-08-14 05:56
I concur on that adjective only I would have personally bottled up my anger and make fermented into a ball busting practical joke that’s only fitting with these people
Tell her that her timing could not have been better and that you have just gotten off the phone talking to someone who has people who are looking to labor for free. Tell her that you have 5 people and get the time and date and the location they are moving to. Go and case the joint that they are moving to a couple of days prior to their arrival just so you can stake out a good spot where you can operate a camcorder from. Then Oooops!! The help “forgets” to show up; the hidden cameraman, however, had his calendar clearly marked and came to get the whole thing on tape. Get it on Youtube. She will find out how her hubris and pomp got her a starring role on Youtube. The title of the video should read something like this:” How to put an end to two pricks” Send her a link via text and tell her that she is fully authorized to use the video as primary resource for any post PhD project that she might be contemplating in the future. Cruel? Can’t be any crueler than her condescending request
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Mr Tazi
0 #3 PHD ? Mr Tazi 2011-08-14 06:44
I guess she meant PHD=Permanent Head Damaged ?
or PHD= Patiently Hoping for a Degree or maybe PHD=Probably headed for Divorce

Since they can not do the lifting by themselves I guess they are PHDs = Pretty Heavy Drinkers so they needed help.
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chtaini
0 #4 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Movechtaini 2011-08-14 08:05
Chtaini said

The Holiest part of Ramadan is charity. It is very kind of the author as well as Jamal to have shown their Islamic positive side. I cannot imagine that the lady and her family are using “Fee Sabil Allah” as an excuse to skim off other Moroccans goodness and willingness to help. The difficulty here is that the lady and her family are in Atlanta and the suggested potential helpers are in Northern Virginia. If the lady and her family have no money and if they are undergoing hardship as it happens sometimes to people anywhere, I would suggest that she contact the nearest Mosque to her neighborhood in the area where she lives in Atlanta and speak to the Imam and seek help to move because of her economic,financ ial and physical condition and that of her family. Furthermore, one of the best Moroccan restaurant in Atlanta is a Moroccan restaurant owned and run by a Moroccan who is an extremely benevolent human being. The lady in question should also contact him and explain to him her situation. I am sure that he will help her find a solution. If her problem is a real problem, we should raise some funds to assist her and her family move. If the whole issue is to take advantage of the members of the Moroccan community, I then question her approach PHD or not. Many people fall into hard times. As Muslims in this Holy Month of Ramadan, I believe that we all would want to help if the situation this lady and her family are in warrants it. All the rest is irrelevant.
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aourid rachid
0 #5 DC is under attack by PHd'saourid rachid 2011-08-14 08:16
Well, since they are moving to the area we should probably all move out. Georgia, would be a better place .
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mbt
0 #6 Mis-Opportunitymbt 2011-08-14 08:20
You mis-understood if it is for Allah, then the reward is more then this world has gold in its belly. What a mis-opportunity , you could have helped them and earned all that gold.

She got her PhD in Morocco where else?
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L.
0 #7 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me MoveL. 2011-08-14 08:45
That is a pretty lame excuse to use her title to scam some fellow Moroccans. She could have at least bartered something if she didn't have any money at all. Plus even if she is a Ph D, if she has no money at all, she will have to do some heavy lifting to get things done. Had she been nicer, maybe she would have had people in her community helping her. Clearly she still has that mentality of "I studied 7+ years, then I am superior"....Sh e can't get away with it nowadays. In morocco it would work because she will have to do something in exchange for the service
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homeless brother
0 #8 sure we'll do it for god sake and FOOD STAMPShomeless brother 2011-08-14 08:54
mr chtaini , it's always a humanitirian crisis with you, c'mon brother , if her and her husband are phd's ,believe me they have plenty of money to rent a u haul and haul their cheap moroccan asses to dc , other wise, WE'LL DO IT FOR GOD SAKE AND FOOD STAMPS, RAMADAN MUBARAK.
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sandra
0 #9 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Movesandra 2011-08-14 13:04
I would ask her why can't she and her husband help with moving their on things. I would have to find out why is it she wants free help and she is not willing to help herself. I would be upfront and direct just as she is direct. If she is just lazy or think that she is too good to help with the moving, I would then hang up the phone.
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Abderrahman
0 #10 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me MoveAbderrahman 2011-08-14 13:29
What doesn't make sense is that you (Karim) share this story with us and assuming doing good!!? Jamal missed the opportunity to help and you as well missed the opportunity to tell something more interesting.
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DaisyMae
0 #11 It ain't just PhDsDaisyMae 2011-08-14 16:39
Anyone with a sense of entitlement will use the biggest "bat" they think they possess to intimidate others into fee-sabyl-illah... on their behalf of course. Clearly, the only 'clout' this woman thought she had was a piece of paper. Maybe she should write "Help" on it, fold it up into a paper airplane and throw it out the window. She might get a better response. :D
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chtaini
0 #12 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Movechtaini 2011-08-15 00:22
Chtaini said

The lady must have a human crisis for doing what she has done. She is either all the things that the majority of the commentators assume she is or she really has a difficult problem. Since we all took the freedom to comment on the situation she presented to Karim and Jamal as to what she wanted from them, why don’t we give her the opportunity to tell us through her exploratory comment what her situation really is. By the number of people who commented in spite of our personal comments, I think that we are all interested in this case and we genuinely want to help if she has problems, but we just do not want to be duped. Isn’t it? Have a Happy Ramadan continuation.
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Shame on you
0 #13 Shame on youShame on you 2011-08-15 02:24
Everyone who has posted negative comments about a woman calling and asking for help moving should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. What does Islam mean for you all? Do you fast during the day while also writing negative comments about an innocent request to have a community of Muslims and Moroccans help someone? Do you pray to God the Highest while thinking negatively about this woman? You all represent Moroccan and Muslims very well, indeed. Your comments appear to be nasty, evil, and hate-filled. But perhaps you are only acting the way you were raised. Who knows?
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Radwan
0 #14 Shame on you guysRadwan 2011-08-15 04:23
First, I am surprised how some people writing nasty comments that translated their hearts and brains. How can you cough such ugly comments when you know nothing about this woman and her husband and if what the writer reported is true. how can Said be ANNOYED if a Moroccan sister called foe help or the like. This sister can be your sister or wife; would you like someone making fun of her as such nasty commentators. How would you assume that she and her husband are snobs and seek free help withing being part of it
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Thoughtful in N Africa
0 #15 Sad, but ...Thoughtful in N Africa 2011-08-15 06:09
As a university teacher in Morocco, I can tell you: Over sixty percent of my students have totally unrealistic ideas about what a 'PhD' means; the sense of superiority (often completely undeserved, even when rewarded) gives them a bizarre feeling that somehow they are different than the common man. Most of the time, I am sad to say, the degrees which a Moroccan post-grad walks around with are like those fake genealogies that the phony "Sherifs" in the mountains carry around to prove their 'right' to your money and time.
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Houcineo
0 #16 Would love to help... fee sabil allah is not free. Houcineo 2011-08-15 06:10
since when doing something in the sake of God is Free? It is Ramadan month, and I help other people for sake of god, with no monetary compensation.. just for helping other.
The article is not really transparent, and a lady who asked help has been turned down.

shame on you!
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Rachid M
0 #17 Worst article everRachid M 2011-08-15 08:08
Is this matter worth writing about? A lady asked for help and you cant and wont help her and what is it you do? write an article and waste our times. The time it took you to write this article you could of summon some people and give her a hand. Please Fi sabili lah spare us articles like these
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man en blanc
0 #18 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Moveman en blanc 2011-08-15 09:12
For what it's worth, it's only half of the story and anyone with brain will not and should believe khorafat ramadaniya.
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sberguem
0 #19 PHD might stand for Person High on Dopesberguem 2011-08-15 14:30
A couple with a PHD should afford to compensate 3 helpful persons for their service. Let's stop the hypocrisy and forget fee-sabyl-illah ...whoever feels compassionate enough to help these Poor Human Douchbagz should step up and offer their help.
You help for the sake of God when you want to and not when asked of you
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Mouatin Maghribi
0 #20 Come on men...Mouatin Maghribi 2011-08-16 01:36
I just came across your article and I was totally baffled by the comments. How can you all write such nasty comments on the basis of an incomplete statement made by someone you don't even know. Let's assume that the lady and her husband have a Ph.D and so what? are you jealous? What if she really needs help and is willing to pay fisabeel Allah. FYI, Payment can also be fi sabeel Allah. I don't think she wanted to take advantage of Morocco Board. Do you all know the real story? I am shocked to see Moroccan citizens acting in a immature and selfish way. This is one sign of the end of the world.
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Reply to Karim
0 #21 The Ph.D lady requesting helpReply to Karim 2011-08-16 01:41
The lady must really have needed help. Instead of backing her up and offering the necessary support, the majority of you just snapped at her as if she was asking for the moon. Have you all asked yourselves if you knew the entire story, the curcumstances behind her call and the reasons why she called . This is unacceptable and I believe that you should understand the situation better.
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Andrew
0 #22 Going to MoroccoAndrew 2011-08-16 02:19
I have read a lot about Morocco and how wonderful Moroccan people are. This article is not going to make me change my mind. I don't know this lady but I wish you would have given her the opportunity to tell you her story before writing such weird comments. She was very clear about the situation and I understand her position. When I go to Morocco, I am going to look for Americans. This is a natural instinct. She just wanted to get in touch with her community. I have Moroccan friends and I know that the month of Ramadhan is very hard. I wish she hadn't made plans to hire people to help. I would have volonteered with pleasure.
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LOOOOOL
0 #23 It is intolerableLOOOOOL 2011-08-16 02:22
The lady just wrote a long article and you are still being mean and nasty. Please set back a little bit. She is our sister. You should all help her and welcome her with open arms. Unfortunately I am not in DC; otherwise, I would have offered some help.

Salam to you all and shame on you.
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An intellectual
0 #24 There is nothing like helping othersAn intellectual 2011-08-16 02:24
Yes, there is nothing like helping others. Good intentions are always rewarded. Whether she can afford to pay or not, this is not a problem. She tapped at Morocco Board doors and she should have been welcomes with open arms. I can't believe that you all wrote such negative replies. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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Rahal
0 #25 Swearing wordsRahal 2011-08-16 02:33
How can you use swearing words to defend your view. I am addressing Moroccan Patriot and many others who dared to use street language to get their message through. Hchouma. You ought to burry your heads in the sand and ask for forgiveness.
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Hamid Mernissi
0 #26 What happened to Moroccan hospitality and Generosity?Hamid Mernissi 2011-08-16 03:05
It is a shame to publish an article as such missing three quarter of the story any reader can detect. Second, what happened to us as a community of Moroccans and Muslims? Is it just because we are here we should forget completely about our values and proper way to treat each other? or sinicism and greed have dominated our lives. Is it not customary for us Moroccans to introduce ourselves when we move to a new neighborhood and also ask for help if needed? is it not in our tradition to welcome new comers to our community and try to facilitate all we can for them. I remember many years ago I moved to Washington with a truck full of things and a wife eight months pregnant. I called on a friend of a friend who did not know me from Adam to come and help unload the truck if he could. When we arrived in my new house I found four families waiting for us with food and everything. the ladies helped my wife cleaning the house, opening boxes and make sure that my wife would not pick up any thing heavy or to stress out where everything should be, while four other men and I were unloading the truck. In a matter of 2 hours the house was set and we all felt so grateful to the generosity of our new friends. We felt welcomed in this community and not displaced at all.

So much to say about Moroccan ethics, needless to say about Islam and the holy month of Ramadan and goodwill. Some of you have really jumped the gun and commented in a very negative way. PHD or not, no body should move to a new environment under the circumstances of this family. The whole concept here is completely mistreated.
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Mohcine s.
0 #27 KhanjiyaMohcine s. 2011-08-16 04:07
This whole imbroglio is due to "cultural" difference.
Georgia and The Carolinas have a large Moroccan community that is affiliated with al-adl-wa-ilihs an., In other words "khwanjiyas".
When you are used to dealing in such milieu, it make sense to call complete stranger and say "i am a Muslim sister, i need three bearded fellows to help me move "fee sabyl illah".
Instead of calling the local mosque or her khwanjiya friends, she called MB and oversold her phd, her denials notwithstanding .
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Jamal Eddine
0 #28 Morocco BoardJamal Eddine 2011-08-16 04:24
The lady requested some help. Whether she has the money to pay or not, you should have been classy in treating such a problem. You don't need to make use of nasty expressions and swearing words in order to defend yourselves. I am Moroccan American and I can't tolerate such facts. Enough.
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Saloua
0 #29 She is wrongSaloua 2011-08-16 04:25
Nadia was completely wrong to have thought of calling Morocco Board for help. I live in the U.S and I have been disappointed at Moroccans. I will not request help from them. They turned me down on multiple occasions and I will not have anything to do with them. Welcome to America Nadia and you did well by hiring Americans to help you.
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Jawad Hattab
0 #30 ChouhaJawad Hattab 2011-08-16 04:27
This is what I would call Chouha. Nafia just requested some help lifting furniture ad look what you have done to her. What if she had requested something bigger? would you spit in her face or call her names? This is Chouha guys. You need to eat instead of fasting. Your fast is not accepted.
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Leila Hamdouchi
0 #31 Look before you leapLeila Hamdouchi 2011-08-16 04:30
You should be very careful adressing situations like those. The woman called for help. You should have enquired about some facts before writing such an article. Apparently, she didn't do anything wrong. She simply needed some help. She didn't ask for food, money or shelter. In fact, I would have been more tha happy to help if I was the oe who answered the phone. I am ashamed of being a Moroccan.
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Kawthar Smith
0 #32 OMGKawthar Smith 2011-08-16 04:32
I can't imagine how you all reason in your minds. She is a women and in need of help. Unlike what you all said, she just needed people to help her move some furniture. I read her story very well and she didn't need help to move in. Please apologize to her quickly. This is Ramdan.
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Boujemaa
0 #33 SlapsBoujemaa 2011-08-16 04:35
Nadia hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. She merely wanted someone to help her and called the Moroccan community. Shame .
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Anas El Menzah
0 #34 CommentsAnas El Menzah 2011-08-16 04:38
I wrote one comment and it has not been published. I am going to try again. This lady is not guilty. She simply needed some help from you all. You made a mountain out of a molehill. Hobba Qobba....
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chtaini
0 #35 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me Movechtaini 2011-08-16 04:38
Chtaini said

Good for you Hamid. I really appreciated your words of wisdom. I decided to find out who this lady is and I did. She and her husband are wonderful people and far from all the hog wash that some commentators have freely subjected them to (S-Hab al Hassanat Wak Wak)I hope that when they come to Washington that you will get a chance to meet them. They are a positive addition to the community. I also hope that others will make sure to get to know them. It is a win win to know this couple. When I travel to DC on my way to Morocco, I will definitely make sure to meet them. Maybe we could visit them together. Happy Ramadan to Hamid and to everyone else.
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Marokki
0 #36 PHD?Marokki 2011-08-16 05:34
The University which granted you a PHD should be sued and refund you your money or the goverment's money. A PHD and cannot call a moving company. Pathetic.
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Elias
0 #37 abdel.namil@yahoo.comElias 2011-08-16 10:03
For each story there are two sides, will be wise to hear her story before one should jump to any conclusion.
Dr. Chtaini would you please encourage her to tell us her version of this story!
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salim farah
0 #38 daaaaaaaaaaaaaasalim farah 2011-08-16 11:03
nobody gets it the probleme is not her asking for help to move the probleme is her saying that she and her husband are PHDs and they will not do any lifting.yes i'll be mad myself if i was in Jamal's shoes.
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Morcelli
0 #39 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me MoveMorcelli 2011-08-16 11:13
I got! , I got it!
Folks here are not against lending a hand fi sabili lah to a Moroccan sister, they are against the fact that Dr. Nadia mentioned the fact that is a PhD educated. This may very well be interpreted as " I am educated and you are not, now do this for me now or else" and that's exactly what happened and that is exactly why we have pros and cons in this issue.
I wish Dr. Nadia would have known better that in the US we do not mentioned our degrees, we do not mentioned what we do unless we are asked.

Imagine an American would say " Hi my name is Sarah Olson, and I am calling to see if I can find few people to help me move some furniture to my apartment and by the way I am a PhD holder" I am sure that Dr. Nadia did not phrase it in this manner but I am sure that the guy she dealt with understood it as such.

I feel more for the husband because us being Muslims in the US is not pretty, like it or not, we are the most hated communities in this country.

After 9/11 an African American colleague of my Moroccan friend told him " Welcome to the front seat my friend, and trust me, you will remain in it for the rest of your life and thank you for doing us this big favor" The guy was right, We are now a community that Senators are bashing to advance in the polls, or get re/elected, we are a community that Moron priests use to get free publicity by burning the Koran in a public ceremony, we are the scape goals of ills, I am surprised we are not blamed for the tumbling of the economy.
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Salma Ait Ali
0 #40 I am disappointedSalma Ait Ali 2011-08-16 11:19
Some of you were kind and addressed the situation intelligently, understanding the lady's situation and sympathizing with her, others were just nasty and selfish. The last comment made by Marokki is really a mess. Why should the university that grated the lady a Ph.D be refunded. You must be jealous as one of you said. I am so disappointed that many of you didn't take the time to know who the lady was and apparently Mr Chtaini did. She appears to be intellectual, nice and sociable. If I were her, I wouldn't even justify myself.
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Jaber Asri
0 #41 I pity this ladyJaber Asri 2011-08-16 11:21
I pity this lady simply because she has written a long article explaining her situation. How kind of her to have done so. I wouldn't do it at all. I would let you imagine things and make you say bad things to relieve my shoulder from sayyi'at and add more hassanat in this holy month. Shame on you all.
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Salah Amjad
0 #42 Ph.DSalah Amjad 2011-08-16 11:40
I see that the Ph.D is starting to be an issue here. The lady just introduced herself to the man on the phone who happened to be busy and annoyed by the call. You are certainly jealous of someone who is proud of being a Doctor and who mentioned it innocently. Please, don't digress from the topic. The Ph.D person is a human being with flesh and bone. If she has a Ph.D and is requesting help that is all the more reason why we should help. May be she is really struggling financially and hasn't has a job yet. May be she's new in the U.S and still can't get her way through. I have a friend who moved to the U.S with a Ph.D from the University of Economics. She married and American and really struggled in the beginning. They both are doing great now but they had tough times at the start of their marriage. Ph.D or elementary school level degree, we are all human beings.
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Rihanna
0 #43 Throwing upRihanna 2011-08-16 11:42
After I read the nasty comments, I threw up in the bathroom. You are all gay and not men. Sorry Nadia but you shouldn't have called moroccans. Nsara ahsan min al mouslimine
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Chami
0 #44 Ramadan MoubarakChami 2011-08-16 11:49
Ramadan Moubarak to all those nasty fellows who dared criticize a situation without having full knowledge of what's going on. Preferably, you should eat and not fast. A cigarette or some wine will do you a world of good
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Spanish Moroccan
0 #45 NadiaSpanish Moroccan 2011-08-16 11:53
I am sorry that you had to go through this. Please forgive those ignorant and uneducated people who wrote and used swearing words. We can help you my wife and I and will be more than happy to assist you with lifting the furniture.
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Boujenna Driss
0 #46 Brothers and SistersBoujenna Driss 2011-08-16 11:55
Repent and ask God to forgive you. She might be someone who wants to take advantage of people and she might be as innocent as she can be, but this is not a reason to write such hurtful replies. I had tears in my eyes when I saw some of you using swearing words during this holy month. It cannot be you, Moroccans and Muslims. Tell me I am dreaming.
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Fish
0 #47 Heat and RamadanFish 2011-08-16 11:57
Is it illegitimate to request some help in the heat and during Ramadan. May be this person is so used to doing good that she expects the same from others? Who knows? Please God forgive all those snakes who said bad things during the month where the Qu'ran was revealed.
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Muslim
0 #48 What is Islam?Muslim 2011-08-16 12:02
Islam is about assisting others and wanting for others what we want for ourselves. When I can't help for one reason or another, I remain nice and kind. I don't lose control. I apologize for not being able to help and withraw kindly without hurting the person's feelings. I wouldn't write an article and blab about things like that. Shame on you all.
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Nadiaa
0 #49 Same nameNadiaa 2011-08-16 12:06
Oh my name is Nadia too but not the same Nadia. I read your article and I think that it is missing many things. I understand that you can't include the whole story in few lines but I completely understand where you come from. You just needed some help and there's no harm in that. May be mentioning that you have a Ph.D somehow bothered the guy on the phone. Don't know why he was allergic to that. You couldn have called me. Nadia would have helped Nadia with pleasure loool
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Alia
0 #50 Poor englishAlia 2011-08-16 12:20
please forgeve my english but I will say the truth after reading the article wrotten but the women. I remark she is kind and she need to be helpt. Now, in case you can't do it, keep your lips closes and say no bad things.
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Sana Hamoumi
0 #51 I need to talk to you guysSana Hamoumi 2011-08-16 12:22
I see that some of you are defending a case they don't know of. This woman is unknown to us. We should be careful in approaching the situation but we shouldn't judge her negatively or positively. Keep distance and if you are unable to help, just shut up shut up shut up. This is Ramadan
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Rania
0 #52 My name is Rania and I can helpRania 2011-08-16 12:23
My husband and I are setting up a business and know so many people in the DC area. If Nadia or anyone else needs some help, let them call me or my husband. We like to help those who deserve it.
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Yunes Alaoui
0 #53 COMMENT_TITLE_R E I Am A PHD, Please Help Me MoveYunes Alaoui 2011-08-16 20:53
Dear Dr, Nadia,

I appreciate your response to the previous article with regard your phone call to a member of the Moroccan community requesting help and assistance for you and your husband to move from your actual location to the D.C Area due to a job opportunity.

I do not know which institution has offered you and your husband a job. I admit, in few instances, some institutions offer financial assistance to future employees to relocate from other cities and states. If it is the case with you and your husband, you should not have made a call to any non-profit organization seeking free labor.

You and your husband claim having Ph.D, which is a great accomplishment putting both of you in higher earning bracket and greater responsibility for the Moroccan and the Muslim communities. You have the knowledge and financial power to contribute in the community and not longer in the receiving end.

By making the call to the member of the Moroccan, you undermined your self, your husband, and your social status because you were begging for free labor

It is not clear how long you have resided in the USA and I must invite you to a new reality far from the one you and I lived with back in the mother land where, often, people use their family, social and financial status for further gains on the expense of the least fortunate in life.


I am sure you have access to the internet at home or one the local free libraries. You could have researched and compared rates for the best deal among moving companies. For your information, some companies offer the whole moving package; packing, loading, unloading and deliver to the new location with no hassle to their customer. Your job is to pay the bell when it comes in the mail unless you prefer to pay in advance. If you can not afford this option, you and your husband are facing financial difficulties or are full of it.

Money may not be an issue to you. You could have called the member of the Moroccan community exercising your right to invest your money in the Moroccan and Muslin community instead of any moving company that does business behind states’ lines. This way, you fulfill your interest under the best conditions possible, give the needy an opportunity to work and make an honest living and most of all, keep the money in the community for it to grow and success.

Frankly, “fee Sabyl-illah” is not for you. You and your husband are healthy, relatively young, and knowledgeable and have an income to fulfill your financial responsibilitie s.



Prophet Mohammed, Peace upon him, once said, “The giving hand is better that receiving hand”.

We all blessed with the opportunity to live and reside in the USA to pursue our dreams, raise a family, secure better future for our children and explore options not available in the mother land. One opportunity is to clear our mind and system from ideas and concepts wrong in the mother land and not acceptable in the USA. We should as a community help one another in any way we can. We should keep low profile, when we are not able to contribute.


Dr. Nadia: I am sure you are a dissent human being, a good member of the Moroccan community and your attentions are honorable, however, your decisions and choices are questionable to certain degree and could be easily addressed by you and your husband to act in the manner that is good for your interest and the community’s interest.


Finally, I want to wish both of you all luck in he world with your new job and the moving process. I am proud to know and learn that two member of the community are highly educated and are able to represent our culture, history and pride among the American society in positive and productive way. Ramadan Karin and Aid Moubarak.


Younes Alaoui
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Narayan
0 #54 Indian fellowNarayan 2011-08-16 23:49
This is a reply to Yunes for his unkind article about Nadia. She was very clear and was ready to help and apparently you all don't read english very well. Read her article carefully and you will understand at least most of the story. Nadia called MBoard and barely spoke for minutes on the phone with a guy. I don't think you understood her well. I am sorry that you all live in a box and drew conclusions as fast as lightning. You must be worn out by the fast.
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AOUED BOUMEZOUED
0 #55 Dr Nadia who requested helpAOUED BOUMEZOUED 2011-08-16 23:55
I am from Meknes and lived in the U.S for 6 years. I have helped many who needed hlep and I myself received so much help FOR FREE from many friends but none of them was Moroccan unfortunately. When I wanted to to get married, I just needed witnesses and contacted Moroccans from a local Mosque. They never came on time and each time I called them, they had their phones off or never answered. I ended up calling some Syrian follows who were so nice and assisted as much as I could. To cut the matter short, Nadia didn't commit a crime by calling and enquiring abour getting some help. Yunes said that she and her husband are healthy and do not need any hekp? did you see that she was healthy? do you know her in person? Shame on you.
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Leila Aswan
0 #56 Basss basssLeila Aswan 2011-08-16 23:59
Basss basss. I am egyptian and I hate what you wrote. Nadia hasn't asked for money or charity and even if she asked, she shouldn't be turned down like this. A Ph.d holder can always request asssitance. People who study post graduate always ask for loan and are usually struggling to complete their education. My brother has a Ph.d and I don't. I just hold a Bachelor's and I am doing better. He is still struggling to pay off his loan and is looking for a job. He will get a good one for sure but this is just to let you know that you acted so low face to the situation presented above.
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Ahmed T.B.
0 #57 Akhbar souqAhmed T.B. 2011-08-18 14:14
I'm not sure why this is generating so much talk, why it is attracting so much attention, why it was published in the first place. The fact it drew over fifty comments - more than some intellectually worthy articles heightening our understanding and fostering our situational awareness - speaks volumes about how trivialities tickle simple minds.
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3amir
0 #58 Thanks Allah for the freedom of speech and democracy, which shows the true face of human being and shows how stupid we can be sometimes.3amir 2011-08-24 17:53
Some daring words from the comments below: It must be fokahat Ramadan “Ramadan Tags”.
Rania said: “My husband and I are setting up a business,“ (thanks for letting us know. Allah i3awniek in your business sister. please let us know if you need any help)

Sana Said: “We should be careful in approaching the situation.“(We should indeed. could this be the end of the world ? if not we could set up a meeting discuss the situation if you would like...)

Alia Said : “keep your lips closes and say no bad things”. Or don’t even think, talk or write bad things, it is pure evil.

Nadia Said: “I completely understand where you come from” the question should be where they moving to and not where they coming from?

Muslim: ”I can't help” don’t worry, if you can’t help they are a lot of brother and sister who can help, no problem don’t take it personally.

Fish said : “expects the same from others?” One should not expect anything from others. Leave it to Allah he will for sure reward you for the good work...
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