The way I see it is that Ramadan is beautiful time period when decent Moroccans come to their senses and try to help and respect one another.
Ramadan is the time when the whole family gathers around something that everyone enjoys: AL HARIRA.
When this shitheads try to destroy this beautiful thing in the name of freedom, that's ignorance.
They will need that freedom badly when they turn them into brides in the Sale' prison.
God Bless, Happy Ramadan!

I am speechless at what I am reading. this is unprecedented. Really, I wonder what other weird things are going to happen in Morocco.
We must reintroduce capital punishment in Morocco, and see if any behavior like this will be recurrent.

Hold on, these guys are just trying to bring to public attention a law that seems to infringe on individual liberties. I don't believe they are doing it just to defy the muslim community. If we accept that anybody who is seen eating before the break is reported to authorities. The next thing would be enforcing the 5 prayers a day. Look Moroccans have to mature a bit it is not just making sure that your neighbor will share paradise virgins with you that matters.
It is living freely now and here, that is the priority.

Fasting or praying or any other religious rite are private matters and the state has no business dealing with. Perhaps the oulemas should have a round table about Bars that miraculously vanish during Ramadan and open thereafter, talk about hypocrisy. Or perhaps they should discuss the role of the state in reducing poverty and prostitution as a duty of every muslim by giving zakat to provide for the growing number of this class in Morocco. Using zakat to reduce poverty, now that would be something to make proud of being muslim.

eating in public is not about freedom. it's about pissing people off. We need to keep in mind that is Morocco not Sweden. We are muslims and we need to show respect to our traditions.
If your mother is fasting, how would you be feeling eating Ramadan in front her?
If your sister brings someone home and close the door behind them during day time of ramadan, are you going to tell me that's freedom.

How about getting a job and mshiw i3arriw 3la ktafhoum?

The level of rhetoric of some comments is very troubling. Why some moroccans still use the example of if your mother... your sister did that or that what would you do, as if trying to intimidate others and shut them off.

For example

Bousati is full of wisdom and dares to ask some very troubling questions

"If your mother is fasting, how would you be feeling eating Ramadan in front her?
If your sister brings someone home and close the door behind them during day time of ramadan, are you going to tell me that's freedom. "


I am asking you Bousati tell us what would you do it was your mother and sister.

Just curious

But I can guess
if you "eat Ramadan" in front of your mother you will be full of shame and might think of punishing yourself by fasting another day or two
If your sister brings someone home and closes the door, I would guess that is not the first time, and you will probably do nothing.
If that is not the answer let us know Bousati but I am fed up with comments trying to shut others point of view.

When I read the comments, I recall the times when i was a child learning to fast. The first day I fasted was a great event and everybody around was just proud of me. The feeling then was unforgettable. This special event was and still is celebrated in all Morococcan families. Our role is to keep this rite going on in the future.
There is a bundle of valueless people who try to spoil Ramadan and its rituals. I just can't sqpeak about them.

The majority of the population supports this step by authorities. If a few "educated" "stuck up" people don't, then leave

some commentators seems to support this action. why don't you say something about the people arrested for public drunkenness in the US.. its seems to suit everybody because it's the law... why don't just respect a law supported by all morrocans or is it just because six people don't like it. Should we accommodate them and the hell with the 33 millions others?.. have some common sense people. that's what democracy is all about.. bidding by the will of the majority, isn't it?

You want to kill everyone who does not believe in God? Dude, you sound worse than a terrorist, even Osama bin laden does not advocate killing non believers.
God itself does not want you to kill those who do not believe. Remember persuasion? you probably have your own revealed Coran.

That's a the reason why the west is scared of Islam, because they are people who who want to terrorize the the whole world in the name of Islam.

Radicals like you make Israel look pretty good by comparison no wonder no one sympathize with even those who has nothing to do with you fundamentalist ideas.

I am glad some of us took the time to answer Mr hayounikhalid. His lack of knowledge about Islam and support for ignorance and extremism was very shocking to say the least.

Mr Forward,
I think you are only looking at one side of the coin. I too disagree with the insensitive behavior of "Wakaleen Ramdan in public" toward their fellow fasting Muslims. However, I question the wisdom behind punishing them.

First, I hope they are only punished for eating in public and not because they are breaking one of the pillars of Islam. Allah the most just is forgiver and the punisher.

So in this case, we can safely say that these few individuals got in trouble for their insensitive and disrespectful behavior directed at the fasting majority.

What about the other insensitive un-Islamic actions of the majority that occurs during Ramadan and outside Ramadan?
For example: Short skirts, tight jeans, public intoxication, loud music, open bars, kissing in public, picking up women including motorists, etc. And we all know that these shortcomings are very negligible when compared with corruption in our society and government. If the law is to punish people for eating in public during Ramadan then it is to be consistent and punish for everything else. You want to instill “Al amrou bi al ma3rou wa A nahio 3ani al Mounkar”? come on, let’s do it.


Does the law protect those who have a legitimate reason to eat in public? ie, Need to take medicine while on the train to work.

3. Does the law differentiate between K7el ras and Sfer ras? Why and Why not?

My friends, the number one the most important factor in progress of nations lays in the balance and the wisdom of these three related elements:

Prosperity = LAW + ORDER + JUSTICE

In short, I disagree with behavior of the individuals in question but I am not sure the balance -in Law, Order, Justice- was achieved.

Allah knows best.

There are many restaurants here in Morocco opened for Moroccans and non-Moroccans who want to eat, and no one have ever attacked them or killed them. But, anyone who wants to eat during Ramadan, he just respect the feelings of this majority who're fasting:http:// inspirationwrit ing.blogspot.co m/2009/09/non-f asters-and-publ ic-break-fast-i n.html

"The excess of burden is laughable...

The protesters can't handle not to eat and smoke in public during Ramadan, but they can handle corruption,segr egation and social injustice for 365 days a year.

But just like in the animal kingdom, the belly has a louder voice in Morocco.
The Moroccans are still obsessed with the first stage of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. (Belly + sex organ)

You are not supposed to eat in public, just like you are not supposed to take
corruption in public, because both acts do/should provoke the Muslim.

I wish the Moroccans could react with the same passion, towards the injustice taking place 365 days a year, like retaliating to sexual harassment, or to an adult beating the hell out of a child, or a policeman humiliating a citizen instead of serving him.

The purpose of Ramadan is to change the individual for the better for the rest of the year, its meaning is way deeper than chewing shebbakia, or holding a coffee nos-nos while facing tv.

The truth is Out there...Get out of your belly !

Peace. "


Why are you making broad based assumptions about a group you obviously know nothing about? Here are the statements on MALI's facebook page (loosly translated from French):
" All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights" - the first article of the Universal declaration of the Rights of people in Morocco. More than in the other States, the defense of our individual freedoms is needed. Abuses of power, socioreligious enquiry, intolerance, abuse of legal texts, choke our fundamental freedoms. For where importance of a reciprocating motion for Individual freedoms: MALI. Our priorities: - Personal freedom: right to exist (prohibition of the capital punishment), physical freedom (to move freely), right to the physical integrity (prohibition of torture), right to the psychic integrity (right to carry out a life which makes it possible to open out). - Freedom of conscience and freedom of worship: each one can practise the religion of his choice or practice any of it. - Freedom of thought: each one can express orally or written what he thinks or believes being the truth. Freedom in Morocco is far from being reached, its safeguarding or its reconquest is a daily battle. Neither the official institutions, nor the politicians must decide in your place. We want an organization which respects the diversity of mankind. To make this a reality, your voice should be high enough to impose your personal choice and oppose the laws and practices to freedom. It is the goal of MALI. We need each of you for changing attitudes.



Hopefully you can see that eating during Ramadan is only one small issue for this group. Their goal for human rights is much larger and more honorable than that. They decided to start small and look at the reaction - imagine the reaction if they actually protested something larger than eating a sandwhich in the woods during Ramadan. Insha'allah they will continue their fight for human rights and the freedom of religion.