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Stripped of Children, Abused and Denied Entry to U.S.

Very few things in life move my emotions so high and so deep. Lifting me in a timeless second beyond my human senses and dropping me in front of the harsh reality of injustice. Injustice where mercy has been taking hostage by cruel selfish creatures disguised as humans.

While walking the path of solidarity, hoping for an answer, drinking from the fountain of hope and looking at the horizons for a better tomorrow. Far but not far, I always felt that the end of suffering was near. No, not yet! Whispered a voice from behind forcing me to open my eyes and see. That’s when I turned and faced the reality. The harsh reality of the story I decided to share with those who have pledged to defend the rights of the hopeless. This is the story of Hind, a 38 year old Moroccan mother, who in a different time and a different place is fighting her own autonomy battle.

In 1993, Hind Mikou graduated from the University of Tunis with a Bachelor’s Degree in Journalism and Mass Communication. With a bright future ahead of her, she decided to follow her dreams for higher education and moved to the United States. Few years later, she got her Master’s Degree in Communication Studies from the University of Pennsylvania. There is nothing more satisfying in life than achieving and fulfilling your dreams and Hind embodied the example of the successful Moroccans women who wanted to make a difference.

On December 19th, 2001, Hind moved to Chicago, Illinois, where she married Mohamed an Algerian citizen who worked as an Operations Manager for a large Bank. Life continued to bless Hind and 2 years later she gave birth to a beautiful baby girl named her Ryhabe.

Living the American dream, Hind got a job as an Editor with Time Publishing Corporation in Chicago. Life could not have been better for the happy family. In 2005, another gift, Shaymaa was born giving the couple another reason to celebrate their union. All seemed perfect, a story right out of fairytale book. Little would Hind know about the turn her life was about to take.

Shortly after the birth of Shaymaa, Mohamed got a job offer from his bank to move to Algeria. Hind did not agree to move with her husband and felt uncomfortable with the idea to leave the US and move to a new country. She did not want to give-up her career and everything she had worked so hard for. But, there was very little she could do. She was between the rock and a hard place.  Between making the choice to move or separate from her husband she did what every caring and loving wife would do. Go to Algeria. A journey that will change her life forever.

The couple settled in a city called Hydra where they got an apartment. At first life seemed to be normal. Beside some cultural differences, Hind was busy raising her daughters and taking care of her husband. The couple had their third daughter, Malak on March 2006.

As months passed the first signals that something was wrong were hard to ignore. Mohamed started to have problems at work and his behavior became radical with Hind. He started to get sick often and became paranoid. The Doctors he visited did not find anything wrong with his health but Mohamed was obsessed and became superstitious about his condition.
In the process Mohamed started seeing fortune-tellers and the like who brainwashed him about what was making him feel the way he did. From worse to worst, Mohamed became distant and violent, and although living at the same place they were physically separated as a couple.

As Mohamed’s life was heading toward a dead-end, he decided to resign from his job and move to Oran, another city in Algeria to live with his family. By now Mohamed had put his wife Hind as the evil behind his misfortune. Imprisoned in his family house, Hind was not allowed to use the phone or the internet. She was completely isolated from the world.

Mohamed became paranoid about people in general and did not allow his wife or children to have any social contacts. The couple was financially broke and couldn’t afford to send their older daughters Ryhabe to school. Hind and her daughters were under constant watchful eye of Mohamed and his family. Hind tried in several occasions to leave Algeria to visit Morocco but in vain. Her husband had denied her the Algerian residency so she could move on and about the country.

By now Hind’s parents were concerned and desperate. The absence of news from their daughter was deafening.  They had lost contact with her after the move to Oran. Hind was now completely isolated from the world. And if isolation was not enough, Mohamed started to escalate his aggression on Hind. The constant insults and humiliation were upgraded to beating.  

The physical abuse became a norm in Hind’s daily life with Mohamed. He made sure that she was punished whenever she would voice her opinion or disagree with him. He even threaten to kill her if she ever runaway from his house with the children. Trapped, beaten and scared for her life, Hind was fighting her autonomy thousands of miles from her home country and family.

On July 2008, Hind convinced Mohamed to let her leave Algeria and go visit her ill mother but he did not let her take her daughters.
Finally reunited with her parents, full of joy and alive again, Hind had one thing in mind; get her children back. She knew that although she had started the US residency process and did not have the permanent Green Card herself, her 2 children were born in the US and that would put the law on her side. Her first stop was the American Consulate in Casablanca.

After telling her story, the American officials advised Hind to file a case and meet with the US Consul. She was full of hope but unfortunately nothing would prepare her for bureaucracy of the system. Hind was asked for her bank account information, the job she had held in the US and other personal info. She prepared all documents but eventually The US Consulate in Morocco refused her case application.  The US official answer was that she did not show enough evidence on her US employment and financial history back when she lived in the states.  Hind cried that she was imprisoned in Algeria and was not allowed to go back to the US to continue the process. She told the American officials in Casablanca that it was out of control.

At that moment, there was a new meaning for bottom in Hind’s life. She had sunk to the lowest level of hopelessness. All communications to her daughters through her husband Mohamed were refused. The American Consulate closed their doors and Moroccan officials did not recognize her US and Algerian marriage to Mohamed. Hind fell into a depression, lost 90 pounds and collapsed. She was admitted to the hospital under a critical condition and while in the intensive care her husband, Mohamed called to tell her that he was divorced. Now all chances for Hind to reunite with her 3 daughters were shutdown.

For many women like Hind, the story would come to an end. But, I am a foolish night with no armor. My faith in people’s conscience would tell me that Hind’s story just began. I see 100,000 people standing right now. Angry, sad and full of passion extending their hand and shouting, “Get-up Hind, get up!” “Ryhabe, Shaymaa and Malak are waiting for you and need you. Don’t give up hope Hind, you are not alone. Yes, it has been hard and what you went through would bring down a mountain but, you are not alone now Hind. We are with you.”

Somewhere carved on a stone in the valley of the wise, a timeless sentence reads; “In life we are not judged by what we do for our self but rather what we do for others.”  The story of Hind is a real life drama. Hind has not seen or talked to her daughters since July 18th, 2008.
Every day we see examples of how people can make the impossible a reality. The story of Hind is an invitation to prove that we can bring down the walls of injustice. Together, we can make those that have turned a deaf ear to Hind listen to her story. We can make those that have closed the doors of help to Hind open them again and let her have her basic rights. Together we can ask the American and Moroccan government to help Hind reunite with her daughters again.

Please support for Hind, voice your support, be one of the 100,000 to sign the petition today.


PETITION

We the people signing this petition ask for the immediate reunion of Hind with her children.

We ask the US government officials and the American Embassy in Morocco to provide the necessary administrative and legal support for Hind to take custody of her Moroccan American daughters.

Petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-hind-reunite-with-her-daughters

Please forward to your contacts and communities.

 

 

Driss R. Temsamani
March 9th, 2009

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ash-lah
0 #1 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.ash-lah 2009-03-11 16:18
Remember how every time you walk into the Moroccan airport, and meet the Border Police, how they remind you that you are on a Moroccan soil and your "Blue" U.S issued passport doesn't mean a thing and you are in need of a Moroccan National Identification because it says that on your face or because you were humble enough to talk to them In Darija?
Like wise, you are dealing with the same beast here and Algeria is a sovereign country and the United State can do nothing for Hind even if she was a Moroccan American.
Let's not politicise Hind and her daughter's struggle or let emotions get in the way of helping a person in need. Petitioning the U.S Consulate in Morocco or the U.S consulate in Algeria is counterproducti ve. The only legal ground that will compel the U,S officials to intervene will be:
If Hind is a U.S Citizen, has Legal custody of her kids or/and can prove Physical abuse. You said that even the Moroccan government of which Hind is a citizen would not acknowledge an Algerian or U.S Marriage, and I think that we should start looking into this problem first. Any way that is another topic for another time..
Going back to Hind.. Since she is not a U.S citizen and she doesn't have custody of her children for the U.S Gov to act on her behalf, she has to fight her battle in the Algerian Judicial System explaining why she left the Matrimonial domicile and was forced to leave her children behind.
What should we do to help from this end:
- Open charitable bank account to collect donations for her and her three daughters to cover all financial coast of travel and Algerian lawyers specializing international law.
- Start a Free Hind's Daughters campaign and highlight their American rights to enjoy the freedoms and protection provided under the United State Constitution amongst NGOs, human rights and women and children's organization in Morocco and in the US and build some apply some pressure on the Algerian Ambassador in the U.S.
- Ask all Moroccan Americans to write to their Congressman and Senator's about Hind's daughters and explains their struggle in not being able to attend school and leaving austere conditions as you have described it in your article.
This grassroots effort will take a while and will not be a quick fix. If your intention of posting this article and the petition is meant to make some noise and let this issue die down, I think It would have been better for Hind and her daughters if you haven't brought it up.
Respect
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Latifa
0 #2 DrLatifa 2009-03-11 17:36
I hope that US government and Moroccan government can work together in bringing justice to HIND
Whoever is in charge let us known what can we do from our side in US
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Zaina
0 #3 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Zaina 2009-03-12 07:48
Very touching story! May God help her. I think we need some support from our fellow Algerians too. If we can get people and human rights organizations in Algeria to get involved, that would help Hind more than just us chanting that what happened is wrong.
And yes, we need to contact our Congressmen and Senators.
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Kamel Harrata
0 #4 ScientistKamel Harrata 2009-03-12 08:53
I don't agree with the assessment of Ash-lah about the Moroccan border police. Whenever I entered Morocco with my American passport (with my Asian-American wife and kids), I was treated nicely and with respect. I could see the welcome sign on their faces. Moroccans are good and nice people. It is up to us to behave with simplicity and respect. Moroccans like and respect Americans in general and look up to us Moroccan-Americans...
I feel for Hind. She should reunite with her kids, and I hope she can receive a visa to the states. This is a lesson for any woman out there that is married to a non American to not move with her husband to his home country whatever the excuse. It was a mistake, but she can rebound.
Best regards
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Hamid Mernissi
0 #5 All our women need helpHamid Mernissi 2009-03-12 11:09
I appreciate both the sensitivity of Mr. Driss and the sensibility of Mr. Ash-lah for our sister Hind’s issue. Mr. Ash-lah, I totally agree with you in your wise comments, find them very constructive and should not be politicized. I do not think however that Mr. Temsamani brought this issue based on the nationality of the husband though Algeria had a history of shredding our families. We will never forget the refugees of Zuj Bghal in 1978 who came in the thousands bare foot. That was an inquisition in itself.
Here I just want to add one point to your comments if I may. It is indeed heart breaking to see a mother suffering and deprived from basic rights either to confront her husband (partner) or being unable to protect her children. This is a problem basically every Moroccan community suffers from. Just here in Washington DC I happen to know at least ten ladies who suffer from similar problems of mixed marriages particularly with Arab husbands from countries where women have almost no rights and are still considered customary their husbands properties. This is a huge problem the Moroccan society confronts and we should deal with it from its roots. My point is, if there is any help we should give our Moroccan sisters is to help them hand in hand to get the respect they deserve and the legal rights they need. Morocco is gradually opening doors in women rights, our participation is a must for a better future. Every Moroccan female is either a mother a sister a relative or a friend. We owe them respect and our pride is to defend their rights.
For all my sisters out there, my advise to you is to stay away from any society where your basic rights are denied. (Please read the last book of Dr. Ghita Khayyat)
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Muneerah
0 #6 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Muneerah 2009-03-12 20:19
I cannot sign the petition in that form.
I dont wish to give out personal information.
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ash-lah
0 #7 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.ash-lah 2009-03-12 21:28
Mr. James Wilson who is a senior Citizen and serving 8 years jail term in Moroccan Prison has a daughter and Wife who are actively working to prove his innocence,insur e his release and bring him home. They started an active campaign by contacting U.S representatives , Senators and the U.S embassy and consulate in Morocoo. They put together a website for this effort at: jdonahue.net:8000/.../....

Lets show your support for this family as well as work with them through their struggle and ask them how we can help them in Morocco even if with visits to Mr. James assuring them of his wellbeing. We can also seek their support in the U.S and learn from their campaign to help Hind and her daughters. Uniting these two Families in their quest for Justice could be a plus for us all.
What do you think?
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simo
0 #8 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.simo 2009-03-13 04:25
salam
not all but most are so happy to marry any one just to get to the us. all is fine util they have kids and still life is good but when the husbund want to go back to his country !!!!!!????? problem .
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Justa Realist
0 #9 What is the reality here?Justa Realist 2009-03-13 09:00
Thank you for Ms. Mikou's side of the story, but as a realist, there are always two sides to each story. I would like to hear the husband's side of the story before I cry any tears for Ms. Mikou. How many men & women in the world have suffered from the world hearing only one side of a story told?

A few sentences that do not sit well with me are:
1) "Hind did not agree to move with her husband and felt uncomfortable with the idea to leave the US and move to a new country. She did not want to give-up her career and everything she had worked so hard for."

My comment: Did Ms. Mikou make life difficult for her husband? She said "she did what every caring and loving wife would do" by moving even though she made it clear she didn't want to move. I'd like to hear if her husband agrees with the "loving & caring wife" part of this sentence.

2. "He made sure that she was punished whenever she would voice her opinion or disagree with him."

My comment: I'd like to hear more about the things Ms. Mikou voiced her opinion about or disagreed with her husband about. May we hear her husband's comments abouth this?

3. "Mohamed started to have problems at work and his behavior became radical with Hind. He started to get sick often and became paranoid. The Doctors he visited did not find anything wrong with his health but Mohamed was obsessed and became superstitious about his condition."

My comment: Isn't it true that Moroccan women have been known to use herbs to make their husbands sick when they do not agree completely with their husband's decisions? I've heard much about this subject that would make me fearful to be a husband of an angry woman. Is this fact or is it fiction?

I could go on about issues I see with this story but I'll stop here. Please give us the other side of the story so we can make an educated judgement on whether this woman truly deserves any of the mentioned countries to go out of their way to help her.

And, before everyone gets out of their minds thinking that I'm acting just like all the men out there...stop... I'm a woman!
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Fatima
0 #10 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Fatima 2009-03-13 11:20
I don't think any petition can help Hind, in what ground the US embassy is going to help her?, she's not a us citizen. The only hope for her is Moroccan gov to get involve and see if they can bring her kids to Morocco other then that she has no hope to come to the USA, unless she comes as a refugee or when her kids turn 18.

God with her, I have kids of my own and I can't imagine life like that.
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Darnazina
0 #11 To HamidDarnazina 2009-03-13 15:08
This is not about women right in Morocco, this is about women right in Algeria. How can a husband devorce his wife in her absence, and keep the kids? Morocco has given the women a lot of rights thanks to The young king. And women in Morocco are not waiting for your help, they are taking care of themslves and doing well.
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Raju
0 #12 Online TravelsRaju 2009-03-14 04:31
WE pray Almighty to give strength to fight
this injustice.
One should not leave their Origin and Dreams get out of the Way.
What she achieved to go to US and get a Degree and get a job should not have changed by herself due to Family conditios.
She should have stayed in US and continue the Journey of her Dreams with her children and husband.
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lmardi
0 #13 one sidelmardi 2009-03-14 10:43
I want to understand Ash-lah's comment "humble enough to speak in Darija"... unbelievable!
I'm Moroccan, but this story sounds a bit one-sided. Why did she agree to leave the US? why did she leave her kids by themselves in Algeria? why didn't she run to a Moroccan consulate in Algeria? what can the US consulate really do? she is not a US citizen... we have to be realistic a bit
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Hmimarmad
0 #14 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Hmimarmad 2009-03-14 12:34
Si Driss,
I would ask Hind to post her message herself in here and in the Petition site. She would get more sympathy not only from Moroccans but from the general public regardless of their nationality.
There are so many organization in the US and abroad that are intended to help women especially. I think that Hind's situation is extremely difficult but who knows? Miracle do happen.
The problem is that Hind is not a US citizen and the other problem is counting on Morocco to help her is an impossibility. We all remember when the Polisario held our FAR soldiers for 25 years in Tindouf, it took an American senator to free them. There was time when Morocco denied that the Polisario is holding Moroccan.
Here is a web site of an American whose son was abducted , Obama himself will ask the Brazilian president to interfere in bringing the kid home.

www.bringseanhome.org/.../
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Aquarius
0 #15 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Aquarius 2009-03-14 19:15
No comment, but this is a naive Moroccan lady, as most of us prefer any , i say any foreigner than any Ouled l'Bled
do you think an Algerian is more reliable and friendly than a Moroccan ???? Stupid to ask. Hind is 34yo. she is not 21yo. she new better her problems before moving to Algeria . Algeria ????? ! and having another child ??? It is insane and she can deal with her insane Algerian Husband
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Ash-lah
0 #16 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Ash-lah 2009-03-14 23:25
concerning My comment about the border Police: if you didn't get it you will never get it. as for Mrs Hind, how many of you dated people that turned out to be nut cases. unfortunately in her case she married one. we should not judge.
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Mohammed Tamim
0 #17 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Mohammed Tamim 2009-03-15 08:08
I am so sorry, but this just a one side story a lot of questions need to be answered!!!!!!! !!!!
She made a big mistake by going to Algeria!!!and she is paying the price for it, sounds hard but life is not always fair, bottom line for all Moroccans out there Never Never Never go to an other country before you get you Green Card simple as that!
wa salam aalikoum
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lmardi
0 #18 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.lmardi 2009-03-15 12:58
Wow, what a logic... still, I don't understand how can one be humble just because he uses his original language, unless for some reason you think that because you speak English now you're somehow "superior". Sad!
And no, I'm not judging, I want to hear the other side of the story, and yes, maybe I've dated some nut cases, but sorry, I'm smart enough not to have 3 kids with them and then move to their country. We are adults and should think about the consequences of our actions.
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Adam Rachid
0 #19 Moroccan Sympathy?????Adam Rachid 2009-03-15 16:31
La Hawla wa la Kowa Illa Billah:
I remember an Algerian prisonner in Morocco who was arrested for a false claim. He saw how us, Moroccans, treat each other and he told me upon his departure from Morocco that he will tell everyone he meets" Moroccans are the only people who disrespect their own compatriots".
From the first comments i read about this story, those who couldnt help or wouldnt sign the petition, did not just SHUT UP and MOVED ON, they had to share with us their narrow minded views of our fellow sister.
I am appalled at the lack of sympathy we have for one another, these are signs left to us from the days of colonisation when the french convinced us that anyone is better than our Moroccan Bretheren.
Snap out of it homies, every single community i come across in America is so tightly knit except for us, Pakistani Americans, Chinese Americans, Colombian Americans South African Americans all stick to one another and support one another financially, emotionally, mentally and socially. What do we lack in order to be like everyone else? Supportive.
I urge you to support this lady, and if you can not sign this petition, support her by making du3aa for her. Imagine, your sister can be in this situation one day. Like the Italians say " Mai Dire Mai" or " Never Say Never"
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Abderrahame Sakkaki
0 #20 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Abderrahame Sakkaki 2009-03-16 02:34
let me first command Mr. Temsamani for telling us this sad story: his poetic style and skills of invoking some if not most of the readers' emotions, applying pathos technique..Howe ver, the plot was not well weaved because there are so many loose threads..Assumi ng the story is credible, I feel sorry for the kids and their mother..But the question is: how did this Algerian turn out suddenly abnormal ?..This lady is well educated , and she could have detected some behavior abnormalities; or a pattern of some unusual events.. ..Not only did she have one or two kids but three..She even moved to Algeria with him..Something is missing here..So, she went to Morocco pretending to see her sick mother but instead, she went to the American consulate to file for Green card.hummmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm..Som ething is not normal here..This lady has no legal status in the USA, so signing the petition is completely useless..Mr Temsamani., if the kids are still in Algeria, why in the world do you accuse the US Consulate of denying Hind and her kids the right of entering USA ?.. You would think of her fighting to have her kids back first, then the second attempt is to try to plead her case to the American Consulate, since the kids were born here..Still, the immigration does not function that way..In life , we make bad choices but we should not accuse someone else for our mistakes..So, what if the husband is a nice guy but may be his financial situation has worsen , and she does not want him anymore? or just the couple are not in love anymore..After all, these kids are his too..This is why the American Consulate did not buy her story..Do I feel bad for her: absolutely..If her story is proved beyond any doubt, she deserves to have her kids back; if her husband is found to be sane, then, I don't know what to say..I believe that kids deserve stability..in the middle of this story, I don't see that..The fact she left them behind, she knows they are fine with their "abnormal" father..Mr. Temsamani, I always give the benefit of the doubt to those who cannot speak for themselves or tell us their version of the story..I read a lot of your articles, and I usually like your style and ideas, but I suggest you be a fair judge of this situation..Shif ting blames is a sign of guilt and weakness..This lady may be helpless but diplomacy can be the only alternative..If her husband finds out of his defamation of character, the aftermath will be counterproducti ve..So signing the petition is not a good idea at all..When it comes to the immigration laws, petitions of this kind can be costly for this lady..I suggest she gather solid proofs to corroborate her case; otherwise, your poetic story will "sink" deeper in a bottomless ocean of helplessness..

good luck Hind

Peace

Abderrahmane
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Samir Lalaoui
0 #21 Get the pointSamir Lalaoui 2009-03-16 15:34
For those who got lost in the story, I think you did not get the point that the 2 girls were born in the USA. That makes them US Citizens.
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yassir
0 #22 if you don\'t want to help. don\'t stop others froyassir 2009-03-16 22:37
#1. if she didn't love him she wouldn't have followed him to algeria. #2 no matter how big the disagreements get, he should never get phisical with her.#3 you are making pre-assumptions that this woman made her husband eat things that would make him feel this way. disregarding the fact that you generalized all moroccan women to be the same when they angry. i say they're not. besides you will be surprised how other woman in the arab world behave towards their husbands when they're angry. Now, everyone here seem to wonder about the other side of the story. which is fine. however, if you are to give the benefit of the doubt to the husband, make sure you do not raise false accusation on this woman such as the ones you have made. put in mind that when a woman gets divorced in the arab world, she is always at fault. she is always guilty until proven guilty, not the other way around. put in mind that this person was alone in a country she knows nothing about, so for her to commit the sins that some of you are wondering about is nearrly impossible giving the fact that she was banned from going out. period. if this story was reversed, and placed the man in her shoes. i'm convinced that so many of you here wouldn't want to here about the other side of the story. they will assume that every thing is right that man claimed. and the woman is the devil, that goes to see fortune teller. right or wrong.
no matter how much you'r right or how much you think you'r right. there is always room for kindness.
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hassane
0 #23 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.hassane 2009-03-17 02:08
very touching story open charitable bank account to collect doinations
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Hmimarmad
0 #24 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Hmimarmad 2009-03-17 03:50
Even if the kids were born in the US, The parents have the sole responsibility, not the US government, and one of the parents is not a US citizen. They are under 18 years of age and the government cannot interfere on their behalf unless there is credible evidence that the children are in harm way.

We have to realistic, the only way for Hind to be with her children, is to go back to Algeria and fight for shared custody in Algeria or may be patch things up with her previous husband. It sounds terrible but keep in mind that he is the father of the kids as well.

In a way Hind will have to give up on her life to get the chance to have a life with her children.

Algeria is not France or any other Civilized country. Algeria will see this as a war between them and Morocco and that's the "reality on the ground"
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Guest
0 #25 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Guest 2009-03-17 04:35
Mr. Samir Lalaoui;

one of the parents should be a US citizen/at least a permanent resident, for the US immigration to entertain this case. the US immigration does not deny the legal status of the kids, but the parents have none. Who will take care of them here without their parents?? So people will come for vacations to the US and give birth to their kids..So do you think we should allow them to be US citizens???and don't forget, to take care of these kids, the money comes out your pocket and mine..Don't get me wrong! I feel sorry for anybody to be in this situation..Univ ersally, all organizations have rules and so does the US immigration..We may not agree but they exist and for some reasons..

Good luck Hind

Abderrahmane
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Abderrahmane
0 #26 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.Abderrahmane 2009-03-17 05:02
Assuming the father is a US citizen/a permanent resident (we know she is neither)because if he has no legal satus in the USA, we should not even entertain this case.., My solution is to send someone to Algeria to meet Mrs. Hind's husband and have his side of the story..Signing a petition is an act of foolishness if not ignorance..Nobo dy is above the law, and signing a petition of this kind will complicate this lady's case more..So instead of chatting here, we should collect money for the implementation of this project..Diplom acy is the key element to find out the whole truth of this situation..Or simply try to contact the guy, and you may have a different version..I see you guys spending money lavishly in organizing some function dinners, so why don't we spend this money to help this lady?? let's find the facts first, and if the story is proved to be credible and also conform with the immigration laws, I will volonteer to assist this lady..But, what will happen to the third kid who was born in Algeria???????? ??????????????? ??????????????? ??????????????? ?????? messy situation and the threads are not well connected..

Good luck Hind

Abderrahmane
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jamal mouhtadi
0 #27 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.jamal mouhtadi 2009-03-17 09:56
I do agree with the majority of the people comments, this story needs little more clarification, something is not kosher. This lady went to school in the US, worked in some publishing comapny, moved to Chicago, got married with an Algerian that worked in some Bank, they had kids together, what is strange here, how come she didn't fill up for her legal documents in the US? I am pretty sure that she needs a Social security number to get a job in that publishing firm, her husband also since he worked for a Bank. Have they filled for a joint tax returns? he won't get any deductions if she is not legal, the birth certificates of the kids will have both names, the marriage certificate what happened to it? plus the last time I have checked I never heared of any US bank opening in Algeria. I can guaranty you if she had the documents I have mentioned the US Consulat would have given attention to her case. Who knows may be she lived in Toulouse all this time.
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OumB
0 #28 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.OumB 2009-04-13 08:40
Though I feel sorry for this woman's plight, some of the fact don't add up. First of all, schools are FREE in Algeria, unless you want your kid to go to an expensive public school, so the claim that they couldn't afford to send their kids to school is weak. Also, in the case of divorce, kids usually go to the MOTHER (whether Algerian or not), especially since both parents are Muslim in this case.
I also think that anyone who leaves her kids with a husband (or any family member) who is acting questionably, in a foreign country no less, should be prepared to deal with the consequences.
I think we should hear both sides of the story, not just hers.
Though it is very tempting to automatically take the side of a fellow countryman/coun trywoman, let's face it: not all Moroccans (or any other group of people) are wonderful and charming. There are good and bad people there just like anyone else. Because children are involved (and, I suspect, because the husband is Algerian) we certainly feel sympathy for her--and, to a certain extent, should--but it should not stop us from jumping to conclusions before we know all the details. Each story has two (or more) sides, and hers is no exception.
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Simo HG
0 #29 5 Laws and 3 differents citizenship Simo HG 2009-04-29 03:58
Like many said in this forum more informations are needed yet will we be rational in our opinion. We are facing here a complicated issue involving differents laws and citizenship

The childrens are Moroccan Algerian American, feel free to play with the order
the Mother is Moroccan we do not know the status of the Father citizenship other then the Algerian one

the Laws we are talking about American Algerian and Moroccan laws in the matter of family issue called Domestic and are different. Add to that the religious Law Islamic and Algerian and Moroccan are for sure the same in the matter of Kids Custody when a misunderstandin g occurs between the parents

but mostely the natural law the childrens and mother one and in this they converge as the custody of children is naturally maternal islamic way is maternal if the mother is fit

yet what kind of marriage was it to what kids were produced

they knew there will be complication

what i wish is the understanding between the parent occurs as a hope for good reltionship between specialy Moroccan and algerian and we need it

The algerian authority must be involved also

wishing good luck to the childrens mother and also the father since no one is reporting his side of story we must be rational
Thanks
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Hind Mikou
0 #30 FeedbackHind Mikou 2009-04-30 13:28
I am the mother and I want to clarify some points. While I am reading these feedbacks, I felt that there was a misunderstading or confusion of my story.
First, I want to thank Mr Driss for his understanding and his kidness. I wrote the story and he edited for me.
Yes, I am an educated, smart and caring mother. I was living in the States for four years before I got married, I paid my taxes and I was a real good citizen.
I met the father of my daughters and at first I made it clear that I am happy with my life in USA and it was my own decision to live in this country.He never mentioned to go back to his origin country.Instead he was telling me how much he suffered from the Algerian life system.
Life was normal. After my second daughter was born; he was looking for international position, I did not mind but when he got the position in Algeria I refused it. Why, because I have the right to choose where to live, it is a human right. and I knew that there is a huge difference between how his family lives in Algeria and how our life was in USA.
Second, at that time, my daughters were too young and I knew that it was hard for me to take care of them alone and I thought that it might work in ALgeria and there was a big chance to stay together. He promised me to let me work in Algeria, to keep my Green Card status and to bring someone to help me with the girls. When I left the USA I was already pregnant with the third baby. You will say that I am too naive, yes I do. You may say that I am bad that the reason my husband changed, it may be. All I know that I am a free woman, independent and hardworker and I have the right to choose where to live. Concerning my daughters'custo dy I am the mother by Chariaa, by the American law, by the Algerian law, I have the right to raise my daughters. Moreover, they are American and they should live in USA with their mother.
One more point to clarify here, is that when I left Algeria, I was depressed and all I wanted is to leave that house and save my skin first. My exhusband would never let me leave the house with the girls. He made it clear that I could go home alone but the girls would stay with him. Since july 2007 until July 2008 he did not change his mind. When I was leaving that house I had no idea what would happen. I have the intention to take my daughters later on.
I asked my husband to let me work before he resigned from his job because I always think that some thing bad may happen and I can take care of my daughters but he refused. He is a selfish and does not care for what I want to do in my life. Yes, I am a wife, a mother but I am still a human being who suffered, worked hard to achieve my goals. I did accept to go and move from USA just for him and for the girls. The sacrifice should be mutual. He should have done sth to show me that he loved me and he cared for my feelings but he did not. Whenever there was a misunderstading with his mom he was taking her side and his mom was doing the same thing.
To tell and describe what I went through will take pages and days, You will have this in a book one day that I am planning to write asas this mess is over;
All I am asking that the American government understands that I could not go to the USA on 2007 to keep my green card status because I was trapped in ALgeria, I could not leave the Algerian territory without the Algerian resident card because he refused to apply for it for me.
Well, I need my green card back, I can go back to my last job without no problem, I wish I could put my letters of recommendation from my work, my pictures to see how I was when I left Algeria. Maybe you will have a clear picture of my story.
I am here to defend my rights, to defend my daughters'right s because I don't want them to live in such environment. I took the risque and I am aware of it. I don't regret anything because I know for sure that I did everything to save this marriage and it did not work. Fine, now it is my life and as I said before I want to go back to live in the States with my American girls. My exhusband used the law and he took advantages of it.
I accept the failure; all I need is another chance to start my life over again.
Remember that I was living in the States before I got married, Am I asking for a lot? I am going back to Algeria to get my daughters'custo dy and then see if the US government will help me to go to live in USA with my little angels.
I want this story to be public in order to make women aware of the risque of a mixed marriage. Unfortunately, we are not aware of the risque that we take either a man or a woman when they we accept a mixed marriage.
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Aisha
0 #31 Hind please contact meAisha 2009-06-06 15:30
Salam Alaikom
I know this is a message board but I have tried every other way to contact Hind with no success. so, please Hind if you read this please email me at .
I think I can help you with your beautiful girls.

Aisha
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FOR HIND
0 #32 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Stripped of her Children, Abused & Denied Entry to the U.S.FOR HIND 2009-08-28 19:36
I am sorry for the kids . I think that Ms Hind MIKOU is rather egoiste and irresponsible.
The Algerian law is clear and it is the same as the Moroccan one.
It is ridiculous to politize this story, as some of you try to do in this forum
She decided on her own to marry Mohamed "the Algerian" and decided on her own to go to Algeria. Nobody forced her.
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Yassmin
0 #33 just a clarificationYassmin 2011-01-17 08:05
most of the insensitive comments are written by, like my grand father used to say "la race qui vient apres les crapeaux" bon! ceci dit!

Needless to say that Morocco HAS to support and back this woman up. and US too if possible, and i think they could coz the kids r born in US.

and to answer some of u:
OF COURSE that she had to follow her husband especially that she had children!!! SO NO! IT WASN'T HER MISTAKE THAT HE WAS AN ASSHOLE!!

she is not the first lady (Moroccan or not) to be treated badly by an 'algerian' husband... they have a reputation that stinks across the continents and it's well earned and deserved!!

in this case, he is a bit educated and look at the dealing?!!! he is lucky her name is MIKOU if it was chi Dawiya she would have teared his intestines apart... but she doesn't sound the kind of!!!

@ JUSTA REASLIST.. u sound like an ugly mama..well listen to this DARLING!! if the fucking herbs worked... he wouldn't have been beating her up.. i wish i knew u and i'll show u what real herbs are ;-)
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