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Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's Soil

Washington  / Morocco Board News Service -  An article in the Washington Post shed new light on the nature of the American military involvement in the Sahel region and on the threat paused by the terrorist group al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb ( AQIM).
According to the article, a new leader of a more dangerous and lethal commando of AQIM is taking over the lead of the North African branch of Bin Laden’s al-Qaeda. Mr. Abu zeid, an Algerian national, is overshadowing the infamous Mokhtar Belmokhtar as the face of the terror group.  The recent kidnapping of foreigners in Niger and the latest military activities on the Mauritania - Mali borders confirms an uptick in terrorist operations in the Sahel. The increased lawlessness in a vast mass of the Sahara desert is raising the specter of an “Afghanization” in the region and the instability that would ensue from it.
The Algerian Army, that has claimed the lead of the anti-terror efforts in the Sahel and North Africa, has thus far failed to stem the activities of AQIM in the region, and, most importantly, within Algeria’s own borders (Five security personnel died in a terrorist attacks in Algeria this week). As the Algerian government continues to publicly reject “outside” help in its “war” against terrorism, the Washington Post reveals the presence of American troops on Algerian soil. Unlike Mali, Mauritania, Niger and other nations in the region that duly coordinate their security efforts with Western and American Special Forces, the Algerians insist in exerting the role of  “the regional leader” at the expense of a more coordinated and effective strategy.
The Washington Post article reported  “the United States has supplied electronic intelligence on Abu Zeid to France to help track French hostages, with U.S. personnel either stationed at, or passing through the area. In response, the article adds, Abu Zeid recently ordered his combatants to halt satellite telephone communications, which are vulnerable to monitoring by U.S. satellites or drones. 
 This article is the latest source indicating American military presence in Tamanrasset, a large city in southern Algeria and its gateway to the Sahara. Several other influential sources have previously alluded to American intelligence operatives that are active in the Algerian Sahara. Since AQIM is a threat to all the countries in the region and to the interests of the United States, American help and support are crucial and essential in this fight. So why are the Algerians denying that U.S military personnel is operating on Algeria’s soil?
Would it conflict with its stated role in the Algeria/Nigeria/South-Africa Axis as the “Revolutionary” Champions of independent Africa, free from Foreign Inference?
In its bid to become the “regional leader” in North West Africa, Algeria has made its stratagem to counter Morocco on the African scene, over the conflict in the Western Sahara, as the corner stone of its foreign policy. Even the American-Algerian relations are colored with the ramification of Algeria’s policy vis-à-vis Morocco.
The Washington Post article dispels recent claims made by Algeria’s foreign Minister about the reasons of Algeria attempts at excluding Morocco form meetings regarding the security in the Sahel. Mr. Mourad MEDELCI said “the last time he checked a map of Morocco, It was not located in the Sahel region”. Well, so are the USA and the Europeans that are “secretly” helping the Algerian Government secure its own portion of the Sahara.
Algeria’s policy on the Western Sahara and its over ambitious plan at becoming a “regional leader” pose a hurdle for the creation and implementation of an effective anti-AQIM strategy. This situation has become increasingly unstable as Mrs Mokhtar Belmokhtar and Abu zeid are moving freely and without much of a challenge from the Algerian Army.  AQIM will only be contained if all the countries in the region implement a cohesive approach to counter the terrorism threat in the region.  
Short term, divisive decisions to score points in the Western Sahara Conflict are posing a threat to the US National interest, as well as that of North Africa and Southern European countries.




Author: Hassan Masiky graduated from the University of the District of Columbia with a degree in political science. Hassan joined the Washington DC based non government organization the Parliamentary Human Rights Foundation (PHRF) where he worked as a consultant for USAID democracy projects in Mexico, Haiti, Republic of Georgia and the European Parliament. After leaving PHRF, Hassan dedicated his time advising Amnesty International USA on African and Middle Eastern affairs and representing the organization in press conferences. Mr. Masiky was a host on several television shows discussing human rights and democracy.




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Morcelli
0 #1 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilMorcelli 2010-10-21 07:43
Mr. Hassan,
I don't know what you are taking about. Algeria is more dangerous to Morocco than AQIM.

So far I have not seen this "AQIM" do any harm to Morocco, Algeria is planing on a daily basis to destroy Morocco.
Look this DZ, he sounds like someone from Liberte or L'expression, or your favorite echourouq. The same old crap telling us that the problem is between the polisario and Moroco, algeria has nothing to do with this.

As for the article, that explains the Obama administration silence about supporting the Moroccan proposal.
If ALgeria is opening up for them to operate, the US will not say a thing about the Moroccan proposal.
Even Hillary who is considered a friend of Morocco was not able to support Morocco other than the statement " our policy has not changed"
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DZ
0 #2 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-21 07:50
Dear Mr.Masiky,

In your blog post you claimed that the Washington post confirmed the presence of US Personal in Algeria
"This article is the latest source indicating American military presence in Tamanrasset, a large city in southern Algeria and its gateway to the Sahara. "
I just finished reading the article and all what the article about the US presence in Algeria is the following :
Abu Zeid's activities may have caught the attention of U.S. counterterroris m authorities as well. In recent declarations, his group said U.S. personnel have been spotted on an Algerian military base at Tamanrasset, near the Malian border hills where Abu Zeid is headquartered, with the apparent assignment of helping local governments monitor al-Qaeda movements across the region
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102005252.html?sub=AR
Off course the terrorist group will claim such thing to justify its crimes and to be used as a recruiting propaganda tool.
Your whole article was built on a flat .
The article actually quoted Lt. Col. Tamara Parker, a Pentagon spokeswoman, who said, "The countries in North and West Africa have demonstrated important leadership in addressing terrorism in the region and the United States supports the region's efforts to increase its long-term counterterroris m capacity."
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DZ
0 #3 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-21 08:01
Morecelli,

I did not know that the truth hurts so much :-) i am sure that a lot of American Politicians have a great deal of sympathy toward Morocco, but The US has to look after its own interests.
Again, why are you guys trying to make Algeria to be the great Evil:-) Morocco problems are with Polisario, Morocco signed a cease fire in 1991 (not 89) with Polisario, and by signing that documents it officially admitted that the other side is Polisarion and not.......Algeria.
Lies and denial will only get you so far again, any resolution to the W .Sahara problem will have to go through 91referendum or the modified version as described in Baker I &II.

Regards,
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man en blanc
0 #4 Country Makeover. NOT!!!man en blanc 2010-10-21 11:53
Can we stop for a millisecond and read between the lines?

Algeria, and by extension, Algerians, do suffer from a devastating inferiority complex.
They wish they can erase their schizophrenic brutal past.
But they can't!

A sample of the Very recent history:

The Islamic Salvation Front (ISF) ruled Algeria from December 1991 to, I guess today.

For those of you who were dormant during the last twenty years, let me tell you about Algeria's other natural resource : Le Front Islamique du Salut. Cutely, en Francais : (FIS)

Non. Ce n'est pas le Football Institut de Fez!

Who Is the FIS, or ISF? Whatever.

It is an association of the worst blood-thirsty sub-human angry Algerians who are spreading an unimaginable terror on God-fearing citizens!

Imagine slitting the throats of innocent women and children riding buses just outside Algiers on a nightly basis (The cowards only operated at night) Because the elections did not go their way!

That's how Algerians do it!
My way or the blood way!

You guys can not deny the horrible reality!
As they say : you can put lipstick on 160 billions dollars, but….
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Obori
0 #5 DZ .. Algeria is to blameObori 2010-10-21 15:04
Lies, lies are coming from you DZ not the Moroccan side. Yes, Algeria is the problem. It is the one who hosted, armed and financed the Polisario to kill and kidnap Moroccans. No other Arab country is supporting the Polisario today except Algeria. Are they all wrong? Even Russia didn't send arms to Polisario when Moroccans were supported by the US in the 70's and 80's. All Moroccans directly or indirectly had suffered from the Algerian regime. No matter how bad Hassan II was, he never made it a priority to hurt the Algerians. Imagine if he gave a peace of land to the Islamists or Touaregs and financed them to kill or imprison the Algerians , how would you feel?
I can assure you, the next war with the Polisario, the Moroccans wouldn't stop at their borders if their brothers were imprisoned at your land.. I just hope that would never happen. As Morcelli mentioned, your comments are just like reading from an Algerian newspaper. Good Luck..
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Ahmed Taibi
0 #6 NOT NEWSAhmed Taibi 2010-10-21 18:25
This is not news. The Washington Post is not reporting it as news, but as contextual background information to support the article. In an article I published on April 26, 2010, titled "ALGERIA'S COALITION OF THE BLIND," and that you can read on my blog at http://cabalamuse.wordpress.com, I stated the following:

The choice of Tamanrasset air base as a headquarters for the new regional coalition is not random. The base, which was built by U.S. Red Horse squadrons and the infamous and now liquidated Brown and Root-Condor (BRC), a joint venture between the American company Halliburton and the Algerian state-owned oil company Sonatrach, is home to Joint Task Force Aztec Silence (JTFAS) assets, primarily a squadron of U.S. Navy P-3 “Orion.” The mission of the squadron is to canvass the region, conduct surveillance, and report actionable information to U.S. Liaison officers (LNOs) who are organic to U.S. special operations and intelligence teams advising the local militaries on kinetic and non-kinetic targets from Tamanrasset.

Read the whole article here:http://cab alamuse.wordpre ss.com/2010/04/ 26/algerias-coa lition-of-the-b lind/
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Djamel
0 #7 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDjamel 2010-10-21 18:49
Quote:
man en blanc said:

Algeria, and by extension, Algerians, do suffer from a devastating inferiority complex.
They wish they can erase their schizophrenic brutal past.
But they can't!
The funny thing is that you don't even know what an inferiority complex is, although you clearly suffer from one, but fear not my friend, everything is curable, including your lack of knowledge, your hatred of the unknown, and your simplistic view of the world.
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Morcelli
0 #8 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilMorcelli 2010-10-21 21:06
DZ,
You want to play this little game of "we are better, no we are better" ok he is this one for you.
Why do you think Morocco gets about 9 millions tourists/year and Algeria gets about FIVE tourists?
The reason is pretty simple, Algeria is a country ravaged by terrorism, more than 200,000 Algerian killed or buried alive. The brutal past and present is hindering any progress.
They are so obsessed with Morocco that does not have any natural resource but a lot more successful in bringing people to visit the beautiful country of Morocco, including the many Algerians who were glad to see that we do not require them to show a visa even though we are at risk when we allow Algerian like you into the country.

Renault decided to open a factory in Tangiers Morocco and the Algerian with their billions went nuts because France decided to go with reasonable Morocco. You need to know that no country will invest in Algeria, it's too risky to invest in a land of terror where they kill each other on a daily basis.

Algeria is spreading terror in North Africa like hot cakes. It all started when their regime stopped the democratic process to take place. As for the Sahara, how many times do we have to tell the Algerians that MOROCCO WILL NOT GIVE UP INCH. We have plenty of time for the Algerians to get used to it. We gave hem 36 years, we can wait another 72 years.
and regarding the upcoming soccer match, remember that Morocco is not Egypt and I am reading the panic that Morocco's last week win and Algerian loss is ravaging the minds on my brother and sisters in Algeria.
Don't worry we're going to give it to Bouteflika :-) stay tuned/
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Morcelli
0 #9 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilMorcelli 2010-10-21 21:19
To Dude in White,
The FIS is he softer version of their terror group, the worst is the Armed Islamic Group (GIA, al-Jama'ah al-Islamiyah al-Musallaha, from French Groupe Islamique Armé; Arabic الجماعة الإسلامية المسلّحة )

Terror in Algeria comes in versions just like olive oil. Most of FISers accepted to lay their arms and machetes when they accepted the deal offered by Boutef.

The only condition, they needed to fulfill is to say in their new media that "King Hassn II was the one financing their terrorist activities to overthrow the Algerian government" and they are free like a bird even if they slid the throats of many many innocent women and children. That's the peace Algerian style.
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DZ
0 #10 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-21 21:32
Man en blank;-)
are you for real???
Inforiority complex toward who?
Fis was never in power.
Please try to check ur facts before
Coming here
And start talking out of ur ...

Mr Masiky,

I am still waiting for an answer, you whole article
Was
Built
On a lie, Washington post never confirmed the presence of US forces in Algeria
As you can see from the following quote
"Abu Zeid's activities may have caught the attention of U.S. counterterroris m authorities as well. In recent declarations, his group said U.S. personnel have been spotted on an Algerian military base at Tamanrasset, near the Malian border hills where Abu Zeid is headquartered, with the apparent assignment of helping local governments monitor al-Qaeda movements across the region "
How can you use a terorrist source as a reliable
Source as a WP source and use
That lie to write a
Long article
Full of lies, is that the kind
Of journalism you represent?
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Guermelou
0 #11 Algeria = ViolenceGuermelou 2010-10-21 23:10
DZ:

Look Algeria and Algerians have a violent history and they kill each other more than they kill the enemy (Algeria's bloody wars (1950's, 1990's, and urban strife in between). That is not heroism. When Algerians speak proudly about their heroic nationalism and the number of people who died in the nationalist struggle, they omit to mention 2 important factors: many Algerians were killed by Algerians. Secondly, despite all the talk about Algerian heroism (the 1 million martyrs), more French troops died "pacifying" Morocco in less than 35 years than those who died in Algeria in 100 years. AQIM or no AQIM, the US in or not in the Sahel, the fact is Algeria will never dare attack Morocco. Algerians know Morocco too well to risk it and they are smart enough to understand the negative international fallout. As for the POLISARIO, Morocco can take good care of it.
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haras
0 #12 to DZharas 2010-10-21 23:40
I quote:"Morocco problems are with Polisario, Morocco signed a cease fire in 1991 (not 89) with Polisario, and by signing that documents it officially admitted that the other side is Polisarion and not.......Algeria.'
maybe you need to check this article, Nezzar thinks otherwise:
http://www.lagazettedumaroc.com/articles.php?r=2&sr=467&n=307&id_artl=2129
Before rushing to reply, read this other article:
http://www.liberte-algerie.com/edit_archive.php?id=6727
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DZ
+1 #13 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-22 07:20
Why do you think Morocco gets about 9 millions tourists/year and Algeria gets about FIVE tourists?

You are right, the tourism sector has been neglected for a long time, but progress is being made, and Tunisia and Morocco can be a good example to follow, except for the kind of tourism that will never be welcomed in Algeria if you know what i mean.


they are so obsessed with Morocco that does not have any natural resource but a lot more successful in bringing people to visit the beautiful country of Morocco, including the many Algerians who were glad to see that we do not require them to show a visa even though we are at risk when we allow Algerian like you into the country.


Let me clarify one thing for you, you were not doing the Algerians a favor by letting them visit Morocco, Algerians were spending over 3 billion dollars a year in Morocco and most eastern part of MOROCCO was depending on Algerians, so after 94 when Driss Basri decided to expel every Algerian from Morocco and imposed Visa on us, SO ONLY at that point Algeria decided to impose visas and close the borders, and for the last few years Moroccan officials have been asking and asking again and again for the borders to be re-opened.
"One more time, King Mohammed VI renovated, in his speech on the 10th Anniversary of Throne Day on July 30, 2009, his call for the neighbour Algeria to the re-opening of the Moroccan-Algeri an borders and the normalization of relations, after a tension that extends 15 years.

“I stress my sincere desire for a normalization of Moroccan-Algeri an relations, in keeping with a forward-looking approach which transcends obsolete stances that are contrary to the spirit of openness marking this 21st century, especially that of the Algerian authorities, who maintain their unilateral decision to close the land border,” said King Mohammed VI in his speech." g>
http://moroccotimes.over-blog.com/article-34512152.html

I quote"R enault decided to open a factory in Tangiers Morocco and the Algerian with their billions went nuts because France decided to go with reasonable Morocco. You need to know that no country will invest in Algeria, it's too risky to invest in a land of terror where they kill each other on a daily basis. "

You see, we can argue all day long but let the numbers talk:
According to the WB the FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) inAlgeria for 2008 were 2.646 Billion dollars
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=bx_klt_dinv_cd_wd&idim=country:DZA&dl=en&hl=en&q=foreign+direct+investment+in+algeria
The same source estimates the FDI in Morocco for the same year were 2.466
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=bx_klt_dinv_cd_wd&idim=country:MAR&dl=en&hl=en&q=foreign+direct+investment+in+morocco

You see, its not about what you can type with your keyboard its about what you can prove and as a grown educated man you should only use facts my friends not bla bla.

and regarding the upcoming soccer match, remember that Morocco is not Egypt and I am reading the panic that Morocco's last week win and Algerian loss is ravaging the minds on my brother and sisters in Algeria

Now, for soccer, not sure yet, but ill be happy either way, because i have always been a great supporter of Moroccan football from the days of Bouderbala Timoumi and Badou Zaki.
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DZ
0 #14 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-22 07:36
DearMr. Taibi,
"he choice of Tamanrasset air base as a headquarters for the new regional coalition is not random. The base, which was built by U.S. Red Horse squadrons and the infamous and now liquidated Brown and Root-Condor (BRC), a joint venture between the American company Halliburton and the Algerian state-owned oil company Sonatrach, is home to Joint Task Force Aztec Silence (JTFAS) assets, primarily a squadron of U.S. Navy P-3 “Orion.” The mission of the squadron is to canvass the region, conduct surveillance, and report actionable information to U.S. Liaison officers (LNOs) who are organic to U.S. special operations and intelligence teams advising the local militaries on kinetic and non-kinetic targets from Tamanrasset.

Read the whole article here:http://cab alamuse.wordpre ss.com/2010/04/ 26/algerias-coa lition-of-the-b lind/?

Mr Maski clearly used the WP as a source of his article, and what the article said was that the AQIM was claiming that US troops were operating in Algeria:
:Abu Zeid's activities may have caught the attention of U.S. counterterroris m authorities as well. In recent declarations, his group said U.S. personnel have been spotted on an Algerian military base at Tamanrasset, near the Malian border hills where Abu Zeid is headquartered, with the apparent assignment of helping local governments monitor al-Qaeda movements across the region
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102005252.html?sub=AR "
i am sorry but that was a clear deception and an attempt to twist facts in order to serve a clearly defined agenda.

As for your article, with all due respect, First of all, the link you posted did not work, second of all you article does not mean a thing unless you have a reliable source.
Yes US. special forces did hold some joint training sessions in Algeria as shown in the following clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMXISXJoEcs
but that was the end of it.

Regards,
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DZ
0 #15 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-22 07:52
Gurmelou:-)

You can make fun of our martyrs and our struggle all you want, because i really do not care of what you think of our history, just remember that the Algerian war is thought in all military schools and even the American commanders in Iraq had to La Bataille d'Alger to try to learn from it.

As for Morocco attacking Algeria, i would really wish for that not to happened because after all we are one people, but that does not mean we are scared, and as you mentioned in your post " we are violent by nature" (SARCASM)
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DZ
0 #16 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-22 08:36
Haras,

"maybe you need to check this article, Nezzar thinks otherwise:
http://www.lagazettedumaroc.com/articles.php?r=2&sr=467&n=307&id_artl=2129
Before rushing to reply, read this other article:
http://www.liberte-algerie.com/edit_archive.php?id=6727
"
YOu know that the articles was published in 2002 plus i am sure you noted the the following part:
Je n’ai jamais prétendu parler au nom de l’armée et ses chefs savent ce qu’ils ont et ils le font bien, ils n’ont besoin de personne pour les inspirer
He does not hold any official position, and he spoke as any other citizens who is entitled to his opinion.
I can post many Interviews of Idriss Elbassri before his death were he was very critical of the Moroccan position :-)
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Guermelou
0 #17 Shame on you DZGuermelou 2010-10-22 08:46
Shame on you DZ and shame on the views you represent. Instead of discussing our to build our countries by investing in our schools, research, hospitals, roads, and factories and instead of exchanging information on the latest technological research you are promoting hatred and ignorance. I for one, am really surprised at myself speaking about Algeria and Algerians with such vehement language. deep inside, I don't believe it. But when individuals like you wasting our time in the Maghreb for nonsense, I must admit I become unreasonable. And for that, I blame you even though I feel also responsible. You represent hopelessness and blind dogmatism, and you inspire violence even in those who are dedicate to peace. Shame on you and on us all!
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Djamel
0 #18 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDjamel 2010-10-22 09:04
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Morcelli said:
and regarding the upcoming soccer match, remember that Morocco is not Egypt and I am reading the panic that Morocco's last week win and Algerian loss is ravaging the minds on my brother and sisters in Algeria.
You're right, Morocco is not Egypt, it's a much smaller and poorer country with a less educated population, nevertheless, nothing will come of the upcoming soccer match because what happened between Algeria and Egypt had nothing to do with soccer and thinking otherwise simply shows your lack of knowledge of a complicated situation.

While I certainly admire your patriotism, let me remind you that the very few readers of this board do not represent the North Africans who struggle daily to feed their families and couldn't give a rat's ass about either politics or geographical borders, so let's be fair to them and let them have a voice on this matter without butting in from thousands of miles away and declaring wars that they ultimately have to fight.
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DZ
0 #19 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-22 09:29
"The FIS is he softer version of their terror group, the worst is the Armed Islamic Group (GIA, al-Jama'ah al-Islamiyah al-Musallaha, from French Groupe Islamique Armé; Arabic الجماعة الإسلامية المسلّحة )

Morcelli,
"Terror in Algeria comes in versions just like olive oil. Most of FISers accepted to lay their arms and machetes when they accepted the deal offered by Boutef.

The only condition, they needed to fulfill is to say in their new media that "King Hassn II was the one financing their terrorist activities to overthrow the Algerian government" and they are free like a bird even if they slid the throats of many many innocent women and children. That's the peace Algerian style.
"

Please, try to do some research before making such statements, obviously, you do not know what you are talking about, just more bla bla bla.
GIA was eradicated a long time ago the only active terrorist group in Algeria is the AQIM, again, before acting like an expert, try to check your facts. As for making fun of the death, alah yahdik.
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Bedaoui
0 #20 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilBedaoui 2010-10-22 10:30
As a moroccan, I feel sad to see all the negative comments towards algerians. I was fortunate to live outside my country where I developed good realtionships with a lot of algerian friends. This fabricated sahara problem is a conflict between governments not people. And by calling each other names we are, as ppl, falling into the propaganda trap of our corrupt governments. As for which country is doing better than the other, none of us is doing well. we are still underdeveloped countries still dependent on the west for everything, like oil and Phosphates, which algeria and morocco respectively exports as raw material and import it as finished goods. So, my moroccan and algerian bothers and sisters, instead of insulting each other, turn that energy toward the ppl with the swiss bank accounts responsible for our misery.........

By the way, I forgot to mention, that the Sahara was ALWAYS moroccan and it will stay moroccan forever....
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Morcelli
0 #21 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilMorcelli 2010-10-22 11:03
DZ,
I have been following what Algeria has been trying to screw up Morocco for the last 20 years and frankly I do not see how you are defending your regime. You keep mentioning El Basri, El Basri is dead and he was the most hated creature in Morocco and this new king fired his ass after 3 months in the throne that shows that Morocco wants to turn the page and starts a democratic process, they started the truth and reconciliation that Algerians can only dream of, and that helped eased the pressure human rights organizations. Morocco is making a step forward and 5 steps backwards, we are not ashamed to say that we are not there and we will not be there for another few decades but I know that we extended the olive branch to boutef and he is not interested, if this makes you proud then I feel sorry for people like you.
El basri was worse than any general you might have bit now el basri is gone and you still have your generals making deals with the presidency such as changing your constitution to make your midget a president for life. Is this what you are defending?

I am the first one to criticize the incompetency of the Moroccan government but when I see people like you defending the Algerians thugs/generals that are screwing up the Algerian people, it makes the Moroccan government look pretty good in comparison.

If you would only stop copying and pasting and rely on your heart and your brain , you will notice that your generals headed with boutef are not doing any Algerian a favor by continuing the fight against Morocco.

As for the upcoming soccer match, I believe that in soccer anything can happen, I was in the stadium when Algeria beat Morocco 5-1 in the eighties. Let me tell you, it wasn't a good day.
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TM
0 #22 US involvement in TamanrassetTM 2010-10-22 17:50
DZ,
There are multiple media report on US Forces presence in Tamanrasset. Google Robert Fisk + Tamanrasset. Here are a couple of sites to check:

www.africaintelligence.com/.../americans-train-eyes-on-tamanrasset,80170476-ART
www.algerie-dz.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-153927.html
http://www.algeria-watch.org/fr/article/pol/us/station_armee_us.htm (Une station d’écoute américaine à Tamanrasset)

There are more news articles in European and American media, but I am unwilling to do the research for you.

You can limit yourself to being spoonfed by "reliable" media outlets, but sooner or later you will have to get your brain involved and do some analysis. To understand what Mr. Taibi wrote, you'd need a modicum of understanding of the inter-operabili ty processes between U.S. Department of Defense services and components and the capabilities each service brings when such operations are stood up. In the absence of such understanding, it would be difficult for you to connect the dots...
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Ahmed Taibi
0 #23 researchAhmed Taibi 2010-10-22 18:45
DZ,
Research JTF Aztec Silence and Tamanrasset. Research Halliburton and Tamanrasset. Research Brown and Root-Candor and Tamanrasset. Research, research, research... before you submit pedentic cafe blabber and showcase your lack of erudition.
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man en blanc
0 #24 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's Soilman en blanc 2010-10-23 01:02
DZ doth protest too much, methinks.
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riffi
0 #25 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's Soilriffi 2010-10-23 02:12
DZ now you are spinning,all the algerian were swearing they are the brave they don't let no foreign force on their soil blablabla ,the pride.you know I am not going to debate with you no more,if the prophet will come down you will still argue with him just for the sake of it.All what I can tell you the DRS(algerian intelligence put a lot writers on the internet to counter the moroccan blogs and you are not winning because the way you debating you are making a mockery of yourselves .
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riffi
0 #26 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's Soilriffi 2010-10-23 02:17
Morceli DZ works for l'expression they sent him to Tampa florida to be their reporter,he already wrote some articles in his military journal about florida and interviewed the Editorialist.TH is guy DZ is not worth a debate.
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-1 #27 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-23 06:11
Morecelli,

If you would only stop copying and pasting and rely on your heart and your brain , you will notice that your generals headed with boutef are not doing any Algerian a favor by continuing the fight against Morocco.


Its not copy and past, it called proving you wrong with fact, hard facts that you can not deny. Unlike you , i do not make a claim unless i can come up with a reliable source to back up any claim i make, refer to the FDI Example, where i mopped the floor with your argument.
I have been following what Algeria has been trying to screw up Morocco for the last 20 years and frankly I do not see how you are defending your regime. You keep mentioning El Basri, El Basri is dead and he was the most hated creature in Morocco and this new king fired his ass after 3 months in the throne that shows that Morocco wants to turn the page and starts a democratic process, they started the truth and reconciliation that Algerians can only dream of, and that helped eased the pressure human rights organizations. Morocco is making a step forward and 5 steps backwards, we are not ashamed to say that we are not there and we will not be there for another few decades but I know that we extended the olive branch to boutef and he is not interested, if this makes you proud then I feel sorry for people like you.
El basri was worse than any general you might have bit now el basri is gone and you still have your generals making deals with the presidency such as changing your constitution to make your midget a president for life. Is this what you are defending?[/b

I am not defending the regime, i am just defending my country, Algeria is very dear to me and i intend to defend it at all cost.
I posted in this post, to expose the false facts presents by the author.
I was very clear, the writer wrote the whole article based on a "LIE" again at the risk of repeating my self again and again, he quoted the Washington post, for the presence of US forces In Algeria, but the truth is that the WP was only quoting the terrorist organization.
Abu Zeid's activities may have caught the attention of U.S. counterterroris m authorities as well. In recent declarations, his group said U.S. personnel have been spotted on an Algerian military base at Tamanrasset, near the Malian border hills where Abu Zeid is headquartered, with the apparent assignment of helping local governments monitor al-Qaeda movements across the region
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102005252.html?sub=AR
Off course the terrorist group will claim such thing to justify its crimes and to be used as a recruiting propaganda tool.

Taibi,
Research JTF Aztec Silence and Tamanrasset. Research Halliburton and Tamanrasset. Research Brown and Root-Candor and Tamanrasset. Research, research, research... before you submit pedentic cafe blabber and showcase your lack of erudition.


The way it works is that the writer is suppose to first find a credible source first and after that report on the news and not the other way around, when you make up the news than try finding a source.


Riffi,

DZ now you are spinning,all the algerian were swearing they are the brave they don't let no foreign force on their soil blablabla ,the pride.you know I am not going to debate with you no more,if the prophet will come down you will still argue with him just for the sake of it.All what I can tell you the DRS(algerian intelligence put a lot writers on the internet to counter the moroccan blogs and you are not winning because the way you debating you are making a mockery of yourselves .

Again, refer to my answer above to Morceli and taibi:-) As for your debating skills:-) i have been giving you facts after facts and all what i am getting back is empty slogans and false accusations.

Morceli DZ works for l'expression they sent him to Tampa florida to be their reporter,he already wrote some articles in his military journal about florida and interviewed the Editorialist.TH is guy DZ is not worth a debate



No, i am Agent 008:-) (Sarcasm)
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-1 #28 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilMorcelli 2010-10-24 00:15
Riffi,
Thanks. When he works for L'expression, why am wasting my time with the sworn enemies of Morocco? It's like asking Osama to make peace with Obama!
DZ. Good bye!
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man en blanc
-1 #29 SIZE DOES MATTER!man en blanc 2010-10-24 08:56
Algeria is an Identity-Challe nged country.
Is it ruled by geniuses with a long-term vision, or bunches of pathetic run-of-the-mill mustachioed ugly men who cannot help being medal-clad clowns?

Is the inferiority complex infecting the entire populace? I don't know.

I can always venture a guess:sad:or few)

-Algeria is squeezed between Morocco and Tunisia.
-Morocco is the Only Country with BOTH: La Mer Mediterranee, et l'Ocean Atlantique in the African/Moslem/ Arab world. That is a lot of coastal prime acres!
-Algeria suffers from some serious side effects of its inferiority complex. The one that readily comes to mind is one word : PARIAH! Yes Algeria is on the watch-list!
-Algerians know very well that Morocco will NEVER give them access to the Atlantic!

They have to earn it FIRST.


In conclusion: Blackmailing innocent Sahraouis to get to Laayoune, and the Ocean, is just another example why Morocco should never trust Algeria!

And yes I do have Algerians friends. And they ALL agree with me!



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-1 #30 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Washington Post: US Military Personnel Operating on Algeria's SoilDZ 2010-10-29 00:19
Man en Blanc?
"bunches of pathetic run-of-the-mill mustachioed ugly men who cannot help being medal-clad clowns?

SORRY, next time will make sure to pick some pretty guys to be our leaders:-) Would YOU LIKE them to be blonds ??
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Amazigh
0 #31 MRAmazigh 2010-10-29 01:57
Cool it boys!
Do not forget that the majority, sensible and logical thinkers either from Morocco or Algeria always agree to disagree. We are virtually the same people. We always stand for each other when we are abroad. Including, funny enough, during this summer World Cup. I was in Morocco when Algeria played England, every Moroccan was shouting support for Algeria. I was one of them because it re-affirms to me that Morocco and the Moroccans have always been the most honest, sensible, hospitable, loving and lets face it, Morocco helped the Algerians to gain independence more than what Algeria did for us.
Those jealous and unforgiving should go and bury their head in the sand for this world has no place for them. Our continent is the richest in the world and we should look after it and utilize the wealth to make it even better. But these squabbles my brothers, is making us a joke and in turn making our beautiful continent even poorer.
Think about it brothers an sisters.
AB
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